Nu Labour Edukasion standards

[AtW]

to be honest going to Eton wouldn't automatically mean you remember dates when you've got a whole country to run.

In my Soviet secondary school they insisted we remember historical dates very well...

[Doggy Styles]

Did someone mention the Maginot Line?

[d000hg]

In my Soviet secondary school they insisted we remember historical dates very well...

Well done. You've memorised numbers instead of learning how to think. Typical production-line education, learn facts by rote.

[AtW]

Well done. You've memorised numbers instead of learning how to think. Typical production-line education, learn facts by rote.

Indeed - they were teaching numbers, rather than independent thinking, however it's not like we are talking really old events that are not relevant - knowing key dates of WW2 that affected this country seems a must have to me: it's Eton we are talking about ffs, they supposed to teach well - it's not like Cameron is 90 year old and has got problems with memory.

[SueEllen]

Indeed - they were teaching numbers, rather than independent thinking, however it's not like we are talking really old events that are not relevant - knowing key dates of WW2 that affected this country seems a must have to me: it's Eton we are talking about ffs, they supposed to teach well - it's not like Cameron is 90 year old and has got problems with memory.

We had to learn to think AND put the numbers in.

If you forgot the numbers then you failed.

(Well OK you can't really fail any more.................)

[xoggoth]

Think I'd hate being a politician with people ready to pounce on every slight slip, not that I ever make mistakes myself obviously.

[d000hg]

Indeed - they were teaching numbers, rather than independent thinking, however it's not like we are talking really old events that are not relevant - knowing key dates of WW2 that affected this country seems a must have to me: it's Eton we are talking about ffs, they supposed to teach well - it's not like Cameron is 90 year old and has got problems with memory.

I was taught well and am not a total dullard. But surprisingly enough lists of facts I learned at school are pushed out of my mind by large (relatively speaking) amounts of programming knowledge.

But anyway, did DC just make a slip of the tongue - that doesn't even mean he didn't know, you can know a fact and still get it wrong when speaking.

[Doggy Styles]

Well done. You've memorised numbers instead of learning how to think. Typical production-line education, learn facts by rote.

I totally disagree with you there.

They are dates, not just numbers. And dates are the reference points of history. It's the way we learn what led to what, what else was happening at the time, who was alive, what tools, weapons, and art they had.

[SueEllen]

I totally disagree with you there.

They are dates, not just numbers. And dates are the reference points of history. It's the way we learn what led to what, what else was happening at the time, who was alive, what tools, weapons, and art they had.

Dates are not the most important thing in history. Though they do give reference points to your knowledge you need to be able to understand, analyse, investigate and examine the evidence that something happened.

Just writing the dates down in an exam will not give you a pass but if you avoid writing the dates and do all the other stuff you will pass.

[dang65]

According to somewhere or other I can't remember, and the Internet:

in September 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, the U.S. Army ranked seventeenth in the world in size and combat power, just behind Romania

Although it didn't take them long to fix that little disadvantage.