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Shearer for England Manager?

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    #11
    Originally posted by MrMark View Post
    I'd like to see someone like Arsene Wenger brought in to completely overhaul the English game. It won't happen though..
    He could do. Arsenal haven't won anything for years either. Perfect match
    What happens in General, stays in General.
    You know what they say about assumptions!

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      #12
      Something has to change, that is for sure.
      And England are not letting the grass grow under their feet.
      They have already decided to ditch the old 4-4-2 for a 7-4-7!

      “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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        #13
        Originally posted by sasguru View Post
        You're all wrong. The manager doesn't matter - its the stupid players you have to deal with and no manager can deal with that.
        Managers of Tottenham, Man U, Man City & Chelsea manage to get the England players to perform. Maybe it just takes longer than a few weeks... they pay together every day for months in their clubs.
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
        Originally posted by vetran
        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #14
          As much as it pains me to say it, Harry Redknapp would make an excellent England manager. He knows how to get the best out of the players and he already has, and has some tactical ability.

          Arsene Wenger would be a terrible choice of England manager. His skill is strategic team building, buying decent young players and turning them into stars of the game. He builds clubs, not teams.
          Cats are evil.

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            #15
            Originally posted by minestrone View Post
            Shearer would be a disaster.
            Agreed

            Originally posted by sasguru View Post
            You're all wrong. The manager doesn't matter - its the stupid palyers you have to deal with and no manager can deal with that.
            I was going to disagree and then

            Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
            'Arry would sort it.

            He's got to win the Champions League first.
            he said it for me. Half (or more than half) the players in the current squad have played for, and thrived under, Harry Redknapp at some point. Joe Cole, Frank Lampard, Rio and Michael Carrick all rose to prominence as bright young things under Harry at West ham early on in their careers, and he's played his part in making King, Dawson, Defoe, Huddlestone, Lennon and Crouch the players that they are. It seems he has a real knack for getting the best out of people, and he seems to be a nice, genuine guy. I'd love to see him in charge of England.
            While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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              #16
              Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
              Fergie always said he would not take the England job because he would be personally unable to ever lead England out if they were ever to be drawn against Scotland
              Maybe we should have him as manager of Scotland - give us a fighting chance!

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                #17
                Originally posted by d000hg View Post
                Managers of Tottenham, Man U, Man City & Chelsea manage to get the England players to perform. Maybe it just takes longer than a few weeks... they pay together every day for months in their clubs.
                You've got a point.

                However you're forgetting the incentives that the Managers of Tottenham, Man U, Man City and Chelsea have to offer...

                I say "Sack the whole England squad. Start again and build a team that can and wants to play together. Eleven prima-donnas don't make a team.

                Churchill - In "I'll do it forra fiver" mode!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                  You're all wrong. The manager doesn't matter - its the stupid palyers you have to deal with and no manager can deal with that.
                  WHS. Why don't they start with some decent players first.

                  Then bring back El Tel. He tells it like it is.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                    You're all wrong. The manager doesn't matter - its the stupid palyers you have to deal with and no manager can deal with that.
                    I support that statement. Capello made a few strange choices but at the end of the day, if a team is truly world class it is down to the 11 men on the field. With the alleged talent that England had on the field, they should have managed more than they did. The biggest failing was in the group stages when if they had get their act together they would have been top of the group.

                    We as a country are too arrrogant at football. We have to be more gracious in defeat!!

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                      #20
                      Root Cause Analysis

                      The players are simply not good enough. There skill is random, and no one shines. Becks in his day was amazing at shooting a ball, but much else? Odd sparks of brilliance now and then from the current squad, but no one dazzles like that obnoxious to**er from Portugal who can't drive, or recent stars like Ronaldinho.

                      There are problems with the national team that seem to have persisted for years now. Managers come and go, but do they really matter that much? Is it really only their fault?

                      England have always seemed consistently weak in defence, are unable at times to pass effectively, and stay huddle together in the middle of the pitch, and fail to open up chances by using the sides of the field. Just look at how the South American teams play. When we do get the odd star player, the rest just don’t seem to be able to play to his standard.

                      I think there is a deeper root cause to our consistently poor performances.

                      The Premier league from which the national team is now traditionally drawn, is so full of foreign talent that there is not enough raw talent born in the UK to fill the side.

                      Nothing wrong with International players being here, and I’m sure that if Man Utd or Chelsea etc, were representing England with all their non UK citizens, we may have even reached the final! But that’s the problem, the UK teams successes are too reliant on foreign players, and we are failing to grow our own stars of the field.

                      Think back to the great days of Cloughie and Notts Forest. Look at what they achieved. How many foreign players made up that side? Exactly!

                      Could Man Utd have won all their recent awards with just UK players. Would Chelsea have climb so high without all that Russian money filling the team with foreign talent, almost all foreign at one point!

                      If we have so much home grown talent, why do we need to import it into the UK from the rest of the World so our home teams can be successful in the Premiership? Also we must not forget that when foreign players come here, we teach them well and how our best guys play, and then they kick our ass when they play against us as part of their National side. Irony?

                      A long term grass roots program is needed to deliver a National team of winning capability, that can win consistently, not the current hodge podge plucked from what we have left over when all the talent goes home to play for their own Countries. We need to grow our own future stars, both for the league and European matches, as well as for the World stage.
                      • Liverpool 2009-10: Four players born in UK, 20 born abroad
                      • Man Utd 2009-10: 11 players born in UK, 17 born abroad
                      • Chelsea 2009-10: Six players born in UK, 17 born abroad
                      • Everton 2009-10: 12 players born in UK, 10 born abroad
                      • Villa 2009-10: 18 players born in UK, 12 born abroad
                      • Spurs 2009-10: 13 players born in UK, 12 born abroad
                      • Arsenal 2009-10: Four players born in UK, 23 born abroad


                      Source is the BBC
                      Last edited by nodric; 28 June 2010, 09:55.
                      I am not an expert, just someone who has experienced things first hand. If you need expert advice then seek out a qualified expert. My opinions are just that, my opinions. I could be wrong, and laws change, so trust nothing I say

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