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Just what we need, more immigrants!
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When I was a nipper a neighbour's euphemism for Indians was "Smoked Irishmen". It was out of date by then as far as I was concerned (I don't remember any racialism against the Irish), but it certainly tells a tale.Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away. -
I just remember a bit when I had not so much hair on my arse.Originally posted by Sysman View PostWhen I was a nipper a neighbour's euphemism for Indians was "Smoked Irishmen". It was out of date by then as far as I was concerned (I don't remember any racialism against the Irish), but it certainly tells a tale.
Granny HAB used to go mental about it as she had it first hand.How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.
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You have misrepresented Zoggy's post.Originally posted by minestrone View PostBollocks, absolute bollocks.

These posters forced my family to change its name to get work.
The Rangers fans recently had a song about the Irish Famine banned by the Police, the little ditty went along the lines of "The Famine is over, why don't you go home".
You are living in a New Labour fantasy world if you think the Irish were accommodated "with open arms".
And your spelling is bloody terrible.
First generation immigrants get a lot of tulip. It always been like that.
Their grandchildren get on fine.Comment
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My family were the first Catholics to move into the area where I grew up in. The neighbours remarked "Catholics, we have never had any of you lot in here", the builders at the time had refused to sell the houses to Catholics or Irish. The people across the road refused to speak to us. They still do not speak to my Parents.
It took 30 years for the council to let us have a Catholic school in the area and they were happy for us to get bussed out the area 8 miles to get to school.
And you know what really ****s that dick off across the road is that we all have degrees, have good jobs, while his daughters are all stuck temping.Comment
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See my above post. When we lost our Irish accents they hated us for being Catholic.Originally posted by Gonzo View PostYou have misrepresented Zoggy's post.
First generation immigrants get a lot of tulip. It always been like that.
Their grandchildren get on fine.
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The Rangers fans recently had a song about the Irish Famine banned by the Police, the little ditty went along the lines of "The Famine is over, why don't you go home".Comment
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Ah, I do remember the Protestant-Catholic divide.Originally posted by minestrone View PostSee my above post. When we lost our Irish accents they hated us for being Catholic.Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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And that he got "retired" from the Police after getting caught drunk driving.Originally posted by minestrone View PostAnd you know what really ****s that dick off across the road is that we all have degrees, have good jobs, while his daughters are all stuck temping.Comment
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Here's the bit where I remember that there were a fair few second and third generation immigrants at my school, and racialism was firmly stamped on. In that respect it was a bit of a sheltered existence.Originally posted by HairyArsedBloke View PostI just remember a bit when I had not so much hair on my arse.
Granny HAB used to go mental about it as she had it first hand.Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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In the end, no, but I think you are missing the point Gonzo, it's about the pace not the nature. For most of us "Our" culture is whatever we grow up with so if that is actually a mix of cultures from all sorts of origins it is not a problem in itself. It is when immigration changes our society at a faster rate then we can readily adapt to that we get problems.Really, how much of an issue is it having Huegenots, Jews and Irish people living in Britain now? It's not. Why do you think it will be any different with any of the others, in the end?bloggoth
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You are trying not to address the points that I made.Originally posted by xoggoth View PostIn the end, no, but I think you are missing the point Gonzo, it's about the pace not the nature. For most of us "Our" culture is whatever we grow up with so if that is actually a mix of cultures from all sorts of origins it is not a problem in itself. It is when immigration changes our society at a faster rate then we can readily adapt to that we get problems.Comment
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