ID Cards supporter calls for refund

[xoggoth]

Dunno, they paid for something and they didn't get it. Why should the damn governemnt keep her money? A refund sounds reasonable.

[Mich the Tester]

Dunno, they paid for something and they didn't get it. Why should the damn governemnt keep her money? A refund sounds reasonable.

They got the cards they wanted.

[SizeZero]

Dunno, they paid for something and they didn't get it.

They paid to take part in a trial. They took part in a trial. They got what they paid for.

[thunderlizard]

That Angela Epstein lady might have a point, because if you look at the picture her card has "specimen" written across it, thus making it extra useless.

[Mich the Tester]

That Angela Epstein lady might have a point, because if you look at the picture her card has "specimen" written across it, thus making it extra useless.

Particularly appropriate to the bearer I might add.

[Spacecadet]

And she rolls out the old 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' argument, slightly adapted for modern times;

" if you were a law abiding citizen you had nothing to lose and everything to gain from something that carried little more information about you than your supermarket loyalty card"

She paints those who are concerned about liberty and the individual's relation to the state as loonies.

She is an apologist for fascism. Very recently in Europe, just an hour or so on the plane or a day's drive away, many, many people with nothing to hide and no inclination to commit crimes have had an awful lot to fear from their governments. I'm not talking about nazi Germany, but things that happened far more recently in Yugoslavia, other parts of eastern Europe, and even, up until about 1980, in Spain. It probably won't happen in Britain, but when everyone starts believing it won't happen, it can.

If it couldn't get any more ironic... turns out she's Jewish
Angela Epstein, the UK's first ID card holder | The Jewish Chronicle

(Although her surname should have told me that already!)

[threaded]

They ought to round them up and surcharge them for collaboration, and them that whinge should be made to pay twice.

And have their heads shaved.

[SueEllen]

They ought to round them up and surcharge them for collaboration, and them that whinge should be made to pay twice.

And have their heads shaved.

Don't forget the star.

Seriously anyone who is Jewish practising or otherwise, has Jewish relations, or has a Jewish name due to intermarriage in their family however many generations ago should be ashamed if they applied for an ID card.

The government and organisations misusing data is one of the reasons why lots of people I know refuse to state their religion, ethnicity or whatever on forms. Or state things like "Jedi".

[BolshieBastard]

I've just realized - UK ID cards might be collectors' items in a few years.

Damn - I wish I'd applied for one now!

Unless you lived in certain north west postcode areas or worked apron side at Manchester or London airports and had a valid UK passport, you couldnt get one!