Gordon getting a grilling on Radio1

[DodgyAgent]

Uh, that's another classic example of what I'm talking about. They sent out 250,000 cards, to addresses which came from the same sources as any other political party or double glazing company would get them from. Maybe the media forgot to point out that one in three people develop cancer during their lives. It is a massively prevalent disease. It's kind of not surprising that a few of the cards, perhaps one in three, should land on the doormat of someone with cancer or someone who knows someone with cancer.

But you seem to think that it is loathsome that people should be informed about what will happen to the support that they and their families will get under different parties. How could anyone be insulted by such information? Oh, wait, unless they had some kind of absurd hatred for the Labour Party, which a handful of the 250,000 people appear to have done, allowing a trashy media spin on the whole thing which people don't fall for. Not anyone that takes a second or two to think it through anyway. For most of us, it's just yet another incident where we think, well, how is Gordon Brown supposed to have done anything wrong there?

tell me something Dang.. now that you have stuck your head above the parapet and admitted to being a labour party supporter (obviously a fanatical one), can you please tell me if you are actually an IT contractor? In which case how do you square the treatment of IT contractors against their hostile treatment by Labour?

[Clippy]

My point was that unlike david Cameron Gordon Brown has a track record on which we can judge him. Therefore it (in my opinion) is fairly foolish to judge GB on how he appears on TV. With david Cameron all we can really do is judge him on how he stacks up infornt of the media.

Well neither Dave nor Nick have bankrupted any countries or pension funds yet, so their track record can't be worse.

Wasn't Cameron part of Norman Lamont's team during Black Wednesday?

Or are we not counting that?

[Mich the Tester]

Wasn't Cameron part of Norman Lamont's team during Black Wednesday?

Or are we not counting that?

That just crashed the pound, but the economy recovered thanks to that, but yes, the Lamont didn´t seem to realise that at the time.

So we´re left with Nick, and Gordon agrees with him a lot.

[shoes]

people know that he wasn't responsible for the wars or the global financial crisis

Yes that's right. It was a global problem that started in america and is now affecting britains hard working families and gordon is best placed to weather the storm because he has valuable experience and knows it is the right thing to do for the hard working families some of which began in america. Hard working families. Global, started in america. Right thing to do. Families. Families. Faaaammmmyleeeeessssss. whirr click whirrrrrrr

[dang65]

tell me something Dang.. now that you have stuck your head above the parapet and admitted to being a labour party supporter (obviously a fanatical one), can you please tell me if you are actually an IT contractor? In which case how do you square the treatment of IT contractors against their hostile treatment by Labour?

I've done fine as an IT contractor under Labour. Am I supposed to have suffered or something?

[malvolio]

I've done fine as an IT contractor under Labour. Am I supposed to have suffered or something?

a) Grow up

b) Read this - <snip>

c) Defend your position or attack that one

HTH

[dang65]

a) Grow up

b) Read this - <snip>

c) Defend your position or attack that one

HTH

What's this about "defend your position"? I'm not actually in the Labour government, you do realise?

None of the rage-inducing issues in that article have affected me anyway, though I'm sorry if anyone has lost homes and families by being bled dry by such legislation. I suspect they only lost their fantasy Porsche though.

[malvolio]

What's this about "defend your position"? I'm not actually in the Labour government, you do realise?

None of the rage-inducing issues in that article have affected me anyway, though I'm sorry if anyone has lost homes and families by being bled dry by such legislation. I suspect they only lost their fantasy Porsche though.

I refer the learned gentleman to point (a).

And FYI, BN66 has already led to divorces and all of those issues affect all freelance workers, whether or not they are smart enough to realise it. Which is a bit like people who think Brown is some kind of economic genius, instead of being the most singularly inept chancellor for the last 50 years and almost certainly our most ineffective, untruthful and cowardly prime minister ever.

Not that I'm biased or anything.

[BoredBloke]

Regarding black wednesday - that was opportunism by Labour at its best - They supported it and if they had been in power, would have had to do exactly what the Tories did in terms of supporting the pound. Aslo, as far as I am aware, the initail cost was big, but not as big as the amount quoted. That's because the sterling they bought to support sterling recovered eventually and could be sold. Pretty different to the gold that fucnut brown sold shortly after telling everybody he was about to sell tons of gold, driving the price down before he sold it!

[dang65]

And FYI, BN66 has already led to divorces and all of those issues affect all freelance workers, whether or not they are smart enough to realise it.

I think anyone who feels that they have been laid destitute by punitive IT contractor tax legislation must be doing something very wrong indeed. This forum is crammed full of people discussing their convertible BMWs, property portfolios, oil shares, and myriad other purchases and luxuries. And simultaneously moaning about how their taxes have built this country up to the point where half the planet dreams of living here. Take some pride, ffs. And refer yourself to (a) and stop whining like a two-year-old. This is a fantastic country. You'd think it was some kind of poverty and plague ridden dustbowl from the way you people speak. I got the train down to London this morning and spent the whole two hours gazing out of the window in awe. You don't know you're f#ing born.