How do you stop/control immigration?

[Swati]

I think the crux of these issues is how are we going to protect our jobs and how are we going to protect our NHS when this people or when these peoples flood our country at the drop of a hat. Lib dem has good policy with regionalised immigration because when you arrive you will be directed straight away to Wales or Ireland or wherever your sevices are required more than other areas.
One thing is very surprising from these discussions and this is Mr Brown. Mr Bwown has very much to my surprise and astonishment banned chefs from outside of the European Economic Community coming into Great Britain. As you may all now, Indian restaurants are not Indian at all they are generally peopled by Bangadeshis and not peopled by Indians. Well in my opinion you have to come from this area or these countries if you are to be a successful Indian chefs so are we about to see a gap in the market for Indian chefs? I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

[HairyArsedBloke]

How about re-introduction of slavery for British people and the euthanasia of the unemployed?

This would dramatically increase the productivity of UK and minimise costs. The UK would be the most competitive country in the world and no migrant would ever want to come here.

[Mich the Tester]

How about re-introduction of slavery for British people and the euthanasia of the unemployed?

Stalin tried something very similar. I wouldn't want to go to Russia,but they do have quite a lot of immigration and always have, even in the USSR days.

[expat]

One thing is very surprising from these discussions and this is Mr Brown. Mr Bwown has very much to my surprise and astonishment banned chefs from outside of the European Economic Community coming into Great Britain. As you may all now, Indian restaurants are not Indian at all they are generally peopled by Bangadeshis and not peopled by Indians. Well in my opinion you have to come from this area or these countries if you are to be a successful Indian chefs so are we about to see a gap in the market for Indian chefs? I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

I don't agree. If an EU national makes good food in the correct style, then he should get the job. If a restaurant of any type were to insist on a chef coming from a particular ethnic group, rather than on his or her being able to cook in the required way, then that would be racist and illegal.

[gingerjedi]

I think the crux of these issues is how are we going to protect our jobs and how are we going to protect our NHS when this people or when these peoples flood our country at the drop of a hat. Lib dem has good policy with regionalised immigration because when you arrive you will be directed straight away to Wales or Ireland or wherever your sevices are required more than other areas.
One thing is very surprising from these discussions and this is Mr Brown. Mr Bwown has very much to my surprise and astonishment banned chefs from outside of the European Economic Community coming into Great Britain. As you may all now, Indian restaurants are not Indian at all they are generally peopled by Bangadeshis and not peopled by Indians. Well in my opinion you have to come from this area or these countries if you are to be a successful Indian chefs so are we about to see a gap in the market for Indian chefs? I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

Shirley this chefery can be passed down the generations, you don't need to send your first born to the sub continent to learn how to cook a balti so why do you need to constantly import new talent?

Sainsburys and Asda do a mean Jalfrazi these days anyway.

[Mich the Tester]

I don't agree. If an EU national makes good food in the correct style, then he should get the job. If a restaurant of any type were to insist on a chef coming from a particular ethnic group, rather than on his or her being able to cook in the required way, then that would be racist and illegal.

Personally I'd prefer to be able to employ the best candidate, regardless of where he/she happens to have been born or what brand of passport he has.

[TimberWolf]

Yep, that's really stopped the Dutch meat processors employing illegals to provide you with cheap chickens. It's stopped the sex-slave trade. It's stopped all the illegals working in the harvests.

What you are saying exists already and hasn't helped at all.

You keep avoiding the issue and adopt write-only mode. Clearly you are in favour of unrestricted immigration and wish to propagate a defeatist attitude towards tackling it. I repeatedly said the biggest problem was with legal immigration. That's the first thing to be tackled. Limit numbers. I addressed illegals elsewhere, but this was ignored too.

[Doggy Styles]

The 'import of talent' argument is overstated. Just like the economic argument.

[expat]

Shirley this chefery can be passed down the generations, you don't need to send your first born to the sub continent to learn how to cook a balti so why do you need to constantly import new talent?

Sainsburys and Asda do a mean Jalfrazi these days anyway.

That's quite true. A Bagladeshi cook need not be a citizen of Bangladesh. He might be an EU citizen of Bagladeshi origin. So even if it's a cultutal issue, it's not an immigration issue.

And why indeed should our Bangladeshi chefs be exposed to competition from the subcontinent, any more than our IT contractors?

[TimberWolf]

That's quite true. A Bagladeshi cook need not be a citizen of Bangladesh. He might be an EU citizen of Bagladeshi origin. So even if it's a cultutal issue, it's not an immigration issue.

And why indeed should our Bangladeshi chefs be exposed to competition from the subcontinent, any more than our IT contractors?

Because it saves us training our own.