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BA strikers to lose travel perks

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    #11
    hmmm whilst I kind of see the point you are making the fact is this.

    The staff feel that BA do not give a toss about them.

    Therefore why should they care whether or not BA does well or does badly.

    Forget the fact that BA is an icon etc and remember the fact that we are in a recession because of the greed of people who could not care whether the average worker lives or dies.

    Why should anyone feel any loyalty to any company when that company will happily turf people out of a job to ensure they meet shareholder profit expectations.

    Note we are not talking about companies who are making a loss and therefore need to cut costs to survive we are talking about companies who want to make more profit so they can award themseleves more bonuses than they could ever spend...

    And so what if that leaves average Joe on the street with no way to pay his mortgage or feed his kids.

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      #12
      If you don't like the terms; find another job. Simple Surely?

      No-one has a right to a job, that's why you EARN a living....
      B00med!

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        #13
        Originally posted by original PM View Post
        hmmm whilst I kind of see the point you are making the fact is this.

        The staff feel that BA do not give a toss about them.
        That's probably true. And probably true of many large companies.

        Originally posted by original PM View Post
        Therefore why should they care whether or not BA does well or does badly.
        Because if they do badly, they cut jobs - probably yours.

        Simples.
        If you have to add a , it isn't funny. HTH. LOL.

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          #14
          Originally posted by original PM View Post
          hmmm whilst I kind of see the point you are making the fact is this.

          The staff feel that BA do not give a toss about them.

          Therefore why should they care whether or not BA does well or does badly.

          Forget the fact that BA is an icon etc and remember the fact that we are in a recession because of the greed of people who could not care whether the average worker lives or dies.

          Why should anyone feel any loyalty to any company when that company will happily turf people out of a job to ensure they meet shareholder profit expectations.

          Note we are not talking about companies who are making a loss and therefore need to cut costs to survive we are talking about companies who want to make more profit so they can award themseleves more bonuses than they could ever spend...

          And so what if that leaves average Joe on the street with no way to pay his mortgage or feed his kids.
          Well spoken brother.. everyone should earn exactly the same
          Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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            #15
            Originally posted by original PM View Post
            hmmm whilst I kind of see the point you are making the fact is this.

            The staff feel that BA do not give a toss about them.

            Therefore why should they care whether or not BA does well or does badly.

            Forget the fact that BA is an icon etc and remember the fact that we are in a recession because of the greed of people who could not care whether the average worker lives or dies.

            Why should anyone feel any loyalty to any company when that company will happily turf people out of a job to ensure they meet shareholder profit expectations.

            Note we are not talking about companies who are making a loss and therefore need to cut costs to survive we are talking about companies who want to make more profit so they can award themseleves more bonuses than they could ever spend...

            And so what if that leaves average Joe on the street with no way to pay his mortgage or feed his kids.
            I hear you, and I understand you. However, as I mentioned,
            Reasoned debate is the way forward, not militant action against those who have nothing to do with your dispute.
            If you don't like your employer you can always vote with your feet. One of the reasons we are contractors?

            I know it's easy said than done, but to hold a country to ransom (as was the case with the NUM) is simply wrong. It is not my fault that the greedy folks in the finance world got it all wrong (were stupid, corrupt or both), nor is my fault that Unite don't agree with BA.

            I am like most of the customers of BA, an innocent bystander. If I went and disrupted the lives of a BA worker, for whatever reason I decided to come up with, I am sure they would not be as supportive.

            BA in the main, offer a good product when compared to their competition, and as a customer I wish to continue using their service without being disrupted by someone I have never met, or affected.

            Management of any ‘big company’ will always seek to line their own pockets, as well as keep the shareholders happy, it’s just the nature of the beast. BA are not unique, and were not the cause of the financial crisis. I agree if they are cutting staff, wages, and benefits etc, simply to pay themselves huge bonuses, then something needs to be done. However, to ruin the travel plans of you and I is not the way.

            So my comments are less about supporting Willie Walsh and the boys, and more about the way unions think they can control the country, dictate to us all, and impact out lives simply to achieve their aims.

            Guess who I voted for in the 80s
            I am not an expert, just someone who has experienced things first hand. If you need expert advice then seek out a qualified expert. My opinions are just that, my opinions. I could be wrong, and laws change, so trust nothing I say

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              #16
              BA Strike - The Facts
              No, not from me, but from someone outside the business and the union.

              An interesting read

              http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flying...ion-from-fact/

              http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flying...trike-numbers/

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                #17
                Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                Well spoken brother.. everyone should earn exactly the same
                cheers DA good to see you back.

                Although that was not my point my point was that the other poster was asking why the staff were harming a british icon and I suppose my point was because they can because nobody gives a stuff about them and as it is not allowed to go and beat the living crap out of the smug feckwits you have to do things to hurt them via a legal route

                And that route is to strike - which they hope will reduce company profits - which in turn maybe will mean that the senior management miss budgets and therefore do not deliver and so will be sacked

                which is highly unlikely but when you only have 1 voice you occasionally have to shout.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Harrysp View Post
                  BA Strike - The Facts
                  No, not from me, but from someone outside the business and the union.

                  An interesting read

                  http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flying...ion-from-fact/

                  http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flying...trike-numbers/
                  from these blogs it looks like the strike has had minimal impact anyway!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Harrysp View Post
                    BA Strike - The Facts
                    No, not from me, but from someone outside the business and the union.

                    An interesting read

                    http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flying...ion-from-fact/

                    http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flying...trike-numbers/
                    So that's where the media got it's news from that Gatwick was operating normally.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by original PM View Post
                      cheers DA good to see you back.

                      Although that was not my point my point was that the other poster was asking why the staff were harming a british icon and I suppose my point was because they can because nobody gives a stuff about them and as it is not allowed to go and beat the living crap out of the smug flipwits you have to do things to hurt them via a legal route

                      And that route is to strike - which they hope will reduce company profits - which in turn maybe will mean that the senior management miss budgets and therefore do not deliver and so will be sacked

                      which is highly unlikely but when you only have 1 voice you occasionally have to shout.
                      How do you know that they are "smug flipwits?" It is interesting how unions put their own demands before services to the customers, whereas the management clearly do not.
                      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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