Fraud attempt

[OwlHoot]

The encryption they are going to use you will have no chance of forging it.

[threaded]

It's called Identity theft and only happens if you are irresponsible IMO.

Did you make sure you put all your unwanted documents into the shredder ?

Kinda happened to a fair few of us on this board: the agent using our CVs with someone elses details.

There's really not a right lot you can do about it is there...

[EternalOptimist]

How often do you open a new account / lose your bank card?

once in ten years ?/ never

I feel as if I am being sold something here, that always makes me nervous.

I like the way you are banging on about the strong points of the system, as if the miscreants are interested in that. Why dont you tell us a little bit about the weak points ?

[Churchill]

Will the Israelis be able to forge the new ID card?

"You can't prove we did it!" is not a defence imo.

[fullyautomatix]

The encryption they are going to use you will have no chance of forging it.

You just cannot make it up.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

once in ten years ?/ never

I feel as if I am being sold something here, that always makes me nervous.

I like the way you are banging on about the strong points of the system, as if the miscreants are interested in that. Why dont you tell us a little bit about the weak points ?

Once all the government agencies and banks etc demand it for every transaction, it becomes a single point of failure - no card =no life.

[RichardCranium]

Some of the basic principles in technology-based security that were true back when I was at college (and probably when Julius Caesar was tattooing secret messages onto the heads of slaves):

- if it can be read, it will be copied;
- if you transmit it, it will be intercepted;
- if you can make it, someone will make one the same.

id cards will not be secure.

[minestrone]

The cards are not really that important in the grand scheme of things anyway, you have your hand print terminal and you have your back end database with the nation's prints.

You say your name, you place your hand down, the sign says who you are, the card is not needed for identification.

And to all you hacking experts how are they gong to hack that level of card encryption? Incognito already said what the resources were to do it and you all just ignored it.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

The cards are not really that important in the grand scheme of things anyway, you have your hand print terminal and you have your back end database with the nation's prints.

You say your name, you place your hand down, the sign says who you are, the card is not needed for identification.

And to all you hacking experts how are they gong to hack that level of card encryption? Incognito already said what the resources were to do it and you all just ignored it.

What you and Incognito are ignoring is that the rate of false positives and negatives for such a large database will be comersurately large.

[Scary]

You don't need to brute force unbreakable encryption to beat a security system, that's what things like social engineering, side-channel attacks etc. are for.