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    #21
    Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
    No need for it.

    There's something like 50,000 people doing PRINCE2 every year, and every one thinks they're a project manager.

    There's an awful lot of people applying for every PM role and why employ someone with a shedload of experience when you can have a keen 20-something with a year's experience of project involvement for £18k a year. Did I say £18k? Yes I did. There's PM work in London demanding PRINCE2 and paying under £25k and they're being filled easily enough.

    What I'm finding scary is that when things pick up, these cheap buggers will have gained some actual real experience and I'll still be on the bloody bench.

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      #22
      Originally posted by lukemg View Post
      Got one through today at £8ph, ok dodgy support role but that is frightening.
      Damn you beat me. I got one through wanting my niche area skills, an MSc and systems implementation experience. For £10 / hr.
      My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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        #23
        Project manager, PRINCE2, software house, £100 - £150 per day. Link.
        My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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          #24
          Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
          Project manager, PRINCE2, software house, £100 - £150 per day. Link.
          Ouch! Dude no wonder you get mad .......... still to be fair, when you want to have every Tom, Dick and Harry swan about as a 'Project Manager' then this is what happens.

          I would say out of my personal experience, Ive met more knobs as PM's than half decent ones.

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            #25
            Originally posted by NeverBeenNorthOfTheM25 View Post
            Ouch! Dude no wonder you get mad .......... still to be fair, when you want to have every Tom, Dick and Harry swan about as a 'Project Manager' then this is what happens.

            I would say out of my personal experience, Ive met more knobs as PM's than half decent ones.

            Sounds like being a PM has become like having a degree. Shame because some are worth it but they're getting harder to spot.
            Step outside posh boy

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              #26
              Originally posted by MrMark View Post
              May be wrong, but I reckon this is Boots. Even Capital One and Experian don't pay that low?
              I always forget about Boots when looking at Nottingham roles - I've known loads of people who are ex-Boots, but never met anyone currently working there.


              My initial thought was that it was Experian (they are definitely capable of paying that low) as they have been recruiting direct for a number of permy BA roles recently.

              I don't think that, in their current, slimmed-down Nottingham operation, Crap One have got much going on beyond their core (in)competency of credit cards.

              Ikano also came to mind.

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