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Illegal file-share trial ends in acquittal

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    #11
    Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
    I assume it's a case of the prosecution not having sufficient evidence to convince the court he engaged in activities prohibited by a law currently on the statute books.
    Could be as simple as that. Perhaps clarification of current laws are required not sure.

    I'm not so convinced that file sharing hurts artists but that's a different topic. In some cases file sharing has revived interest in a particular band / artist and thats a good thing.
    Me, me, me...

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      #12
      Originally posted by Cliphead View Post
      My new album is doing well, you can download most of the tracks from the website for free and I encourage copying. I'm still making money.
      But that's your choice, as the owner of the work. Do you also encourage others to make money selling your work?

      The argument that "that's too expensive therefore I'm justified in stealing it" is a pretty flimsy one. Is it really too expensive, or is it that you're looking for an excuse to not pay the price?

      It's hard to see how this guy got away with it. Surely making money out of crime is a crime in itself?
      Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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        #13
        Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
        But that's your choice, as the owner of the work. Do you also encourage others to make money selling your work?

        The argument that "that's too expensive therefore I'm justified in stealing it" is a pretty flimsy one. Is it really too expensive, or is it that you're looking for an excuse to not pay the price?

        It's hard to see how this guy got away with it. Surely making money out of crime is a crime in itself?
        Amazon make money selling my album and some others in the pipeline, no problem with that at all. I suspect price has nothing to do with it, people will grab something just because they can.

        In my book making money out of crime is most definitely a crime. As I mentioned earlier I'm not so sure about the arguments trotted out by the record companies et al but breaking the law seems more clear cut, or should be which has failed in this case.
        Me, me, me...

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          #14
          Originally posted by Platypus View Post
          You seem unwilling to accept that he was sent to trial and found not guilty.
          I accepting this as a fact that he was on trial and was found not guilty.

          What I am not accepting is that in principle such behavior should be acceptable (ie legal).

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            #15
            Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
            If people could get the product legit, fast, cheap and on demand then they wouldn't bother with finding a dodgy download.
            Balls they wouldn't. It's a matter of principle to many people that they are 'entitled' to get free copies of any music/video. I can accept you might see some reduction in piracy if an album was $5 instead of $15, but I doubt it would be that substantial, unless anyone can show figures otherwise. If the actual 'production' cost is $3, they need to increase sales 6-fold to break even, that sounds unlikely.
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              #16
              Originally posted by d000hg View Post
              Balls they wouldn't. It's a matter of principle to many people that they are 'entitled' to get free copies of any music/video. I can accept you might see some reduction in piracy if an album was $5 instead of $15, but I doubt it would be that substantial, unless anyone can show figures otherwise. If the actual 'production' cost is $3, they need to increase sales 6-fold to break even, that sounds unlikely.
              I don't agree (obviously) as with less downloaders and less seeders it would be a pain in the nads to get the content. If it's cheap, synchronised release, quick and easy to get a top quality product a significant number will use the official service.

              Obviously it wouldn't be an overnight conversion, but then neither was illegal file sharing of music and films.

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                #17
                Oops. Surely he can now sue the FT for defamation?

                "Illegal file-share trial ends in acquittal" - if he's been found not guilty, they shouldn't be reporting his site as illegal.

                My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
                  "Illegal file-share trial ends in acquittal" - if he's been found not guilty, they shouldn't be reporting his site as illegal.
                  No, it's fine (IANAL though) the trial was called ILLEGAL, but it ends in acquittal.

                  It's the same as to say - "murder trial ended up in acquittal".

                  HTH

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AtW View Post
                    No, it's fine (IANAL though) the trial was called ILLEGAL, but it ends in acquittal. It's the same as to say - "murder trial ended up in acquittal".
                    Yep. Right you are.
                    My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
                      Yep. Right you are.
                      Can you repeat this please, I am not sure everyone heard it...

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