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    #31
    Originally posted by swamp View Post
    I think William Hague would be much better, but he had his chance.
    He had his 8 pints, and the chance had him

    Portillo would have been a good PM with Ken Clarke as Chancellor.

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      #32
      Originally posted by AtW View Post
      He was right on a number of things - particularly when it came to banks getting into debt games.
      Doesnt make him competent to deal with the problems does it? A mate of mine also predicted all this and he's a banker who doesnt earn much.
      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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        #33
        Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
        A mate of mine also predicted all this and he's a banker who doesnt earn much.
        Is your mate a respected member of Parliament with a Shadow Chancellor job? If no, then he can't get elected and won't have a chance to become Chancellor.

        Vince is highly competent when compared to Osborne, and certainly Darling.

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          #34
          Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
          That's a bright idea!!! The last time a Monarch forcibly disolved a Westminster parliament there was a civil war culminating in the execution of the Monarch.
          <pedantic>
          Charles II dissolved Parliament and ruled alone until his death (in bed) several years later in 1685.
          </pedantic>
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            #35
            Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
            <pedantic>
            Charles II dissolved Parliament and ruled alone until his death (in bed) several years later in 1685.
            </pedantic>

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              #36
              Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
              <pedantic>
              Charles II dissolved Parliament and ruled alone until his death (in bed) several years later in 1685.
              </pedantic>
              I stand corrected.

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                #37
                People are sick of a two party dictatorship, where nothing much changes. Politicians will behave discracefully, power will corrupt, the economy will go from boom to bust, the same civil servants will continue to run things behind the scenes.

                It's like a pathetic soap opera, and the sadist thing is some people fall for it and actually believe in the system. When the fact is nothing significant ever changes from within the system, change always comes from outside of the political process.
                Last edited by Bagpuss; 10 January 2010, 19:19.
                The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
                  When the fact is nothing significant ever changes from within the system, change always comes from outside of the political process.
                  Hasn't Simon Cowell made a threat to enter politics?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                    Hasn't Simon Cowell made a threat to enter politics?
                    Cameron is going to make him a Lord and then minister for culture.
                    How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by centurian View Post
                      But they were kicked out over their mistakes in the 92 recession (which was nowhere near as bad as this one) and the scandals of the mid 90's. And I think it was quite right they were punished for those mistakes, even though they had actually turned things around the economy was doing pretty well in 97 - we had a budget surplass

                      So given that things are twice as bad now and we are still in recession (which might technically change shortly - although the perception still won't change), why are things still close.
                      There wasn't a surplas [sic] in 1997. Labour inherited a deficit - look it up.

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