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We'll Change Law On Killing Burglars

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    #71
    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
    There isn't a death penalty for trespass or stealing. If, in some psychotic world, that were the penalty, it would make existing penalties for more serious crimes ludicrous.
    It's not a penalty - it's a counter action against criminal. Attack on a house is attack on personal safety - same with rape, or any other violence, the idea is to prevent them - once enough stupid criminals get shot then things will get better.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Cliphead View Post
      Pacifism in the face of the enemy smacks of appeasement.

      Come the revolution, you'll be first against the wall.
      My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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        #73
        Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
        Pacifism in the face of the enemy smacks of appeasement.

        Come the revolution, you'll be first against the wall.
        Wanna make it personal?
        Me, me, me...

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          #74
          Originally posted by Cliphead View Post
          Wanna make it personal?
          May as well ... I know you're not going to fight back...
          My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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            #75
            Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
            May as well ... I know you're not going to fight back...
            Me, me, me...

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              #76
              Originally posted by AtW View Post
              It's not a penalty - it's a counter action against criminal. Attack on a house is attack on personal safety - same with rape, or any other violence, the idea is to prevent them - once enough stupid criminals get shot then things will get better.

              You assume the burglar will die, with no mention of wounding to disable etc. It's an execution and far worse than the original crime.

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                #77
                Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                You assume the burglar will die, with no mention of wounding to disable etc. It's an execution and far worse than the original crime.
                Not all will die, but good wound should make their "business" rather unattractive.

                The objective is not to kill burglars, but to create a good deterrent - first will be shot, others will stay away apart from occasional stupid one.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  Not all will die, but good wound should make their "business" rather unattractive.

                  The objective is not to kill burglars, but to create a good deterrent - first will be shot, others will stay away apart from occasional stupid one.
                  Or they turn up armed and more dangerous.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                    Or they turn up armed and more dangerous.
                    Did they teach you probabilities in school?

                    I think I've explained it pretty clearly, with 50% probability of either defender or attacker shot (dead or wounded bad enough), the attacker will have 90% chance of being shot after 3 attempts.

                    Given that scumbags like thieves, burglars are in big minority it means that those of them stupid enough to continue their activities (at least when people are in the house) will be dead or wouded.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      Not all will die, but good wound should make their "business" rather unattractive.

                      The objective is not to kill burglars, but to create a good deterrent - first will be shot, others will stay away apart from occasional stupid one.
                      If this is true then why is burglary so rife in the US.

                      They've had guns laws for 230 + years, surely that's long enough for even the yanks to get the idea. But has it worked?

                      Alexei, if gun laws are the answer to these crimes then please explain why burglary goes on in the US.
                      Beer
                      is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
                      Benjamin Franklin

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