No wonder they call them <removed>

[fckvwls]

I have a small modicum of sympathy with your friend but he did ultimately break the law. If the police were performing "proactive policing" as someone else alluded to do they not have a duty to prevent a crime being committed prior to is occurring if they can reasonably predict it is about to happen? This type of policing does have a feeling (although it wouldn't legally be classed as) of a form of entrapment.

[Platypus]

I then give then the third degree and ask for one of those yellow police stop notices. I describe myself as Black Caribbean and that really pisses them self off.

What is one of those yellow stop notices?

Unfortunately IME if you piss them off, they can piss you off more.

[cailin maith]

It's scary that... if he has "one too many" as opposed to being absolutley paraletic, surely he wouldn't still be over the limit this morning?

Anyway, what scares me the most is that people think that just 'cos they have had a sleep, they must be sober.

[DimPrawn]

In the old days they would have helped you into your car and told you to drive home and sober up!

Bloody Socialist nanny state.

[Platypus]

Anyway, what scares me the most is that people think that just 'cos they have had a sleep, they must be sober.

Hic! What, me, ossifer ?

[Scary]

Knowing how keen the pigs are to meet their targets I do not drink even a drop of alcohol and drive. The police still stop me on suspect of DD with such silly excuses that why am an indicating at every turn. Once they do not smell alcohol on me they don’t breathalyse. So far I have never been breathalysed. I politely ask them if have they have finished with me and then I tell them it’s my turn. I then give then the third degree and ask for one of those yellow police stop notices. I describe myself as Black Caribbean and that really pisses them self off.

You are named after whiskey.

[wurzel]

In the old days they would have helped you into your car and told you to drive home and sober up!

Bloody Socialist nanny state.

There's a pub landlord near me who allegedly does that quite regularly to one of his regulars. They literally carry him to his car and point him in the right direction & he drives back through the lanes. Now, that is truly out of order.

[cailin maith]

There's a pub landlord near me who allegedly does that quite regularly to one of his regulars. They literally carry him to his car and point him in the right direction & he drives back through the lanes. Now, that is truly out of order.

Used to happen a lot at home that... so many times, we'd be walking out the road to my house, no lights, tiny little road and some ejit coming along swerving all over the place...

[scaramanga]

It think the title of the thread is valid but the reasoning is poor. If you're over the limit, you are always taking a chance.

However, I definitely agree with the sentiments of those who say many of them abuse their position and get off on the supposed power they have over the man on the street.

Earlier this year, I was faced up to two such individuals lying in court in relation to an SP30 case which I decided to fight. Some tough questions from me and they made an a*se of themselves in front of the magistrate who found me not guilty.

I suggest your friend looks into every possible legal angle in relation to the blood samples they took etc. Very busy time of year for this and you never know, something might get lost in the lab. Some might say take it on the chin, but I guess that depends on the person.

I'm not sure I agree with this one strike and you are out policy regardless of the wider effect it can have (loss of job, subsequent loss of tax revenues for the state etc.), particularly when it was the morning after and you would assume a borderline case. If he was still smashed then fair cop. However in other countries a sizable fine or community work might be seen as more appropriate than a ban.

[cailin maith]

I'm not sure I agree with this one strike and you are out policy regardless of the wider effect it can have (loss of job, subsequent loss of tax revenues for the state etc.), particularly when it was the morning after and you would assume a borderline case. If he was still smashed then fair cop. However in other countries a sizable fine or community work might be seen as more appropriate than a ban.

But what if he'd pulled out of the pub carpark and run over a child on their way to school?