What would be your important considerations if you were offered a perm position?

[EternalOptimist]

Not much use if I can't see what to spend it on.

you could afford to hire a publicist

[Pogle]

It would have to be well paid (obviously)
On me doorstep
40 days holiday

I think I'm just a bit fed up of working down South

[RichardCranium]

Do they lock the stationery cupboard?

Is there free tea / coffee?

Is there anywhere to sleep undisturbed?

[BlackenedBiker]

It would have to be well paid (obviously)
On me doorstep
40 days holiday

I think I'm just a bit fed up of working down South

Hmmmm, first two are possible but not the last one IMHO.

Are we saying that we just wouldn't take the pay cut.

If the money was better would be take the permie BS

What is permie "security" worth in relation to contractor hassle (bench time and oft considerable commutes and time away from family????

[TheFaQQer]

What would be your top three, if a clientco made you a serious offer?

1. Location / ability to work from home.

2. Salary / bonus structure - how frequently / realistically is there a pay review? How does it compare to what I earn now as a contractor?

3. Challenge / variety of the work.

I left my first permie job because I wasn't getting the market rate for what I did, or any kind of recognition for the amount of work I brought into the company. I also didn't like the location. I left my second job because I wasn't getting the variety of work that I like.

If a company can balance the two, then I'm in

[Andy2]

No 360 degree reviews bulltulip

[d000hg]

How do all contractors manage to work in such crummy places prior to contracting? I've had permie jobs in 3 companies (all software companies) and none had this sense of wading through HR rubbish everyone claims is everywhere. Apart from annual reviews, which took an hour or two once a year, it was a job - they gave me stuff to work on and I did it.

[EternalOptimist]

How do all contractors manage to work in such crummy places prior to contracting? I've had permie jobs in 3 companies (all software companies) and none had this sense of wading through HR rubbish everyone claims is everywhere. Apart from annual reviews, which took an hour or two once a year, it was a job - they gave me stuff to work on and I did it.

As you get a bit older, you will accumulate a thing called maturity. As you mature you will begin to realise that not everyone else has had the same experience that you have enjoyed.
Some will have had a whole heap of sh1 t piled upon them, some will have been inordinately lucky.
Some will be fighters, some will look for the easy path.

As you mature even more, you will discover a trait known as empathy. At this point you will be able to put yourself in the shoes of the high flyers, the unfortunates, the blaggers and the bombasts. You will learn to cry as well as laugh.


None of this maturity will help you in your contracting career, but it will make you a nicer person.


now fck off and come back when you are ready

[TheFaQQer]

now fck off and come back when you are ready

EO, you makes I laugh!

[stek]

I've just gone permie after contracting since 1992 apart from 2002-6 when personal circs forced me into permiedom - loss of wife, loss of father, bout of depression, nursery age kids and permie job offered was WFH, so helped with schooling.....

2002 - What a sh1t year that was...

Anyway, recently spent three years on NHS contracting, got culled, got back as permie after warchest depleted and I fookin hate it. 'Rasing the Bar' 'Opportunities to Excel' meetings looking at Powerpoint piecharts - all that bollox.....

So far I can say nothing about permiedom for me in this role is 'a good thing' - can't even force myself to call in sick when I have a cold - it's too imbred; no day, no pay....

I'm a contractor, get me out of here......