Reply to: What would be your important considerations if you were offered a perm position?

[Epiphone]

Size of warchest
State of market
Paying the mortgage

[DS23]

1 don't laugh
2 appear pleased
3 politely decline

[VectraMan]

I'd go permie if I could be a company director, even of a small company, which I guess isn't really being a perm. That's the only reason I'd want to do it.

If I was forced into it, it'd have to be interesting work and a reasonable amount of freedom. I'd consider that more important than salary and perks. I have seen a few interesting looking permie jobs recently, much more interesting than anything I'd ever find as a contract, and it's a little tempting. But I'm not sure I can bring myself to devote my working life long term to somebody else's project.

[oracleslave]

Salaries in IT are a farce IMHO. compared to American salaries they are a joke.

As in, USA's are far better paid?

[lilelvis2000]

I'm considering going to my client and being made permanent if my business plans don't show any success next year. I'm the only one who knows all the insides and out of the software I've written for them. They have asked me twice in the past.

Not sure I'd get what I'd ask for though. Salaries in IT are a farce IMHO. compared to American salaries they are a joke.

[Andy2]

I work in IB. I'd consider going permie if I worked on the trading floor and didn't work for IT - i.e. directly for the business and with a business sized bonus.

How can an IT worker make a leap into trading . Is it possible?

[Lockhouse]

I work in IB. I'd consider going permie if I worked on the trading floor and didn't work for IT - i.e. directly for the business and with a business sized bonus.

[Doggy Styles]

1. Location

2. Money (not just salary but bens as well)

3. Work I enjoyed

The trouble is, as a contractor my marketability increases with each new place I work at, so it can only go down in a long stint of permiedom.

[RichardCranium]

As you mature even more, you will discover a trait known as empathy. At this point you will be able to put yourself in the shoes of the high flyers, the unfortunates, the blaggers and the bombasts. You will learn to cry as well as laugh.

Some days CUK is a river of vitriol. But occasionally, one comes across a valuable gem that makes the bile all worthwhile.

That was one such gem: a Crystal of Truth.

[pzz76077]

What would be your top three, if a clientco made you a serious offer?

I was once offered a permie job (more than 20 years ago) - the conversation went something like, 'if I gave you 45 grand to go permie, what else would it take'?? My answer was another 45 grand, so my answer would be double the average permies salary.

PZZ

[Alf W]

For the last two client co's I've worked at the term "permy" would be a bit of a misnomer. More like "waiting for the chop-y".

[d000hg]

...maturity... ...empathy. None of this ...will help you in your contracting career, but it will make you a nicer person....now fck off

How edifying.

[stek]

I've just gone permie after contracting since 1992 apart from 2002-6 when personal circs forced me into permiedom - loss of wife, loss of father, bout of depression, nursery age kids and permie job offered was WFH, so helped with schooling.....

2002 - What a sh1t year that was...

Anyway, recently spent three years on NHS contracting, got culled, got back as permie after warchest depleted and I fookin hate it. 'Rasing the Bar' 'Opportunities to Excel' meetings looking at Powerpoint piecharts - all that bollox.....

So far I can say nothing about permiedom for me in this role is 'a good thing' - can't even force myself to call in sick when I have a cold - it's too imbred; no day, no pay....

I'm a contractor, get me out of here......

[TheFaQQer]

now fck off and come back when you are ready

EO, you makes I laugh!

[EternalOptimist]

How do all contractors manage to work in such crummy places prior to contracting? I've had permie jobs in 3 companies (all software companies) and none had this sense of wading through HR rubbish everyone claims is everywhere. Apart from annual reviews, which took an hour or two once a year, it was a job - they gave me stuff to work on and I did it.

As you get a bit older, you will accumulate a thing called maturity. As you mature you will begin to realise that not everyone else has had the same experience that you have enjoyed.
Some will have had a whole heap of sh1 t piled upon them, some will have been inordinately lucky.
Some will be fighters, some will look for the easy path.

As you mature even more, you will discover a trait known as empathy. At this point you will be able to put yourself in the shoes of the high flyers, the unfortunates, the blaggers and the bombasts. You will learn to cry as well as laugh.


None of this maturity will help you in your contracting career, but it will make you a nicer person.


now fck off and come back when you are ready