When is racially-aggravated crime

[Dundeegeorge]

The problem JG

This is appalling - I agree with the sentence, any such vicious murder should carry a harsh sentence - but why oh why does it make a stuff of difference to anyone why they murdered

is that had it only been a common or garden murder, they would have received 15 years.

[Joe Black]

This is appalling - I agree with the sentence, any such vicious murder should carry a harsh sentence - but why oh why does it make a stuff of difference to anyone why they murdered

Can't see much difference between the cases. Each group shouted or made racist comments at some point, and in the case of the Asian youths having killed one guy then gone for a Kebab, one of them then set about attacking another person.

"it was an unprovoked attack, very brutal and vicious"
"this killing was and remains a senseless event"

Guess which quote is which case.

So why should there be a potential 15 year difference in jail time?

[Dundeegeorge]

******* good question

So why should there be a potential 15 year difference in jail time

[Xena]

So why should there be a potential 15 year difference in jail time

It's only "fair".

White people is racialists, innit, and racialists is bad. We need to increase the number of white people in prison to ensure that the prison population contains a representative mix of our ethnically diverse (and, hence, enriched) society. Giving white people longer sentences will help to reverse the over representation of non-whites in the prison population.

[Harrysp]

Section 28 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 defined an offence as racially aggravated if the offender demonstrates racial hostility towards the victim at the time of, or before or after, committing an offence; or is motivated wholly or partly by hostility towards members of a racial group. It created specific offences of racially aggravated assault, criminal damage, public order and harassment. Additionally, section 153 of the Powers of Criminal courts (Sentencing) Act 2000 (replacing section 82 of the 1998 Act) imposes a duty on sentencing courts to treat evidence of racial aggravation as an aggravating feature, increasing the seriousness of the offence and the sentence to be imposed, in cases where offences are not specifically charged under the 1998 Act.
Section 28 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 defined an offence as racially aggravated if the offender demonstrates racial hostility towards the victim at the time of, or before or after, committing an offence; or is motivated wholly or partly by hostility towards members of a racial group. It created specific offences of racially aggravated assault, criminal damage, public order and harassment. Additionally, section 153 of the Powers of Criminal courts (Sentencing) Act 2000 (replacing section 82 of the 1998 Act) imposes a duty on sentencing courts to treat evidence of racial aggravation as an aggravating feature, increasing the seriousness of the offence and the sentence to be imposed, in cases where offences are not specifically charged under the 1998 Act.

[Phoenix]

So premeditated Murder with no apparent motivation...is good?

I think I 've got it now.......

[Harrysp]

So premeditated Murder with no apparent motivation...is good?

I think I 've got it now.......

Who said it was good?

[Phoenix]

Who said it was good?

Well you get 15 bloody years less!!!!

[SupremeSpod]

When is a racially motivated crime...

Dundee, your answer is.... "When the police say it is..." or not!

I hope that helps, somehow, I don't think it will. Ah, well, tulipe happens, we must move on and according to the chancellor, pay up. It's only fair after all.

[Harrysp]

Sorry SS it is not it is when the judge makes the decision that it was a racially motivated attack!