democracy

[EternalOptimist]

It gives an insight into what people considered life expectancy to be thousands of years ago.

methuseleh

[threaded]

methuseleh

Well, in some sections of the bible the ages do seem a little odd.

[snaw]

Hygiene, oh my, someone's watched too much Monty Python. They weren't covered in mud you know. Middle ages English people loved to bathe. Many castles had special rooms, that contained enormous baths, next to the kitchens, where it is written in many sources that the ladies would retire to and share a communal bath, when the men were partying, and these would be used by all levels of society. In towns they had special bath houses, that were very steamy, called "Stews".

I'm talking about it in a medicinal sense, you muppet. The context of me mentioning it is a bit of a giveaway:

ignorance on the importance of hygiene meaning even small injury's could be life threatening

Or is that too complicated for you?

[EternalOptimist]

Well, in some sections of the bible the ages do seem a little odd.

plus the infant mortality was even worse. Thanks to their child protection minister, Herod.

[TimberWolf]

true he didnt.
Infant mortality ran at a horrendous rate. Many interpretations of longevity deliberately ignore all deaths before ages 1,2 or 5, because they get so skewed.
You have to be careful with a lot of these figures

I wouldn't have expected human infant mortality to have been much less than for from other animals thousands of years ago. Why should it have been? I could be persuaded that it did increase significantly in recent centuries though (over crowding etc), before improving again.

[BrowneIssue]

Well not since yesterday anyway

I'm getting old.

[Addanc]

I think there's a phrase used for life back then, when you weren't one of the landed gentry: nasty, brutish and short.

Go read some history books instead of posting boys own fantasy bollocks about how medieval England was more democratic then 21st century Britain, or that somehow living in the feudal system was a pleasant experience.

In historical terms, up until the black death wiped out large chunks of the population and created a labour shortage and subsequently handed some power to the hungry masses, life was pretty ****ign miserable.

I guess Threaded is hinting at something like this. Kick a dog enough and it will turn on you.

[threaded]

I'm talking about it in a medicinal sense, you muppet. The context of me mentioning it is a bit of a giveaway:



Or is that too complicated for you?

Actually I've already discussed how they found a skeleton from 4000 BC that had a disease that meant they were paralysed from the neck down. Yet they survived for 10+ years in that condition. Without modern antibiotics. So he must have been receiving better quality day to day health care than what you could expect from todays NHS.

The way people with downs syndrome are buried in the middle ages, and the ages they lived to, showed that there was a great deal of communal care.

And there were medical specialists, so it wasn't quite as awful as made out.

[TimberWolf]

methuseleh

They got Pi wrong too.

Mind you, the Bible was probably written by people living in the Garden of Eden (Mesopotamia) where presumably food wasn't as as scarce as it became in medieval periods and more recent times.

[snaw]

Actually I've already discussed how they found a skeleton from 4000 BC that had a disease that meant they were paralysed from the neck down. Yet they survived for 10+ years in that condition. Without modern antibiotics. So he must have been receiving better quality day to day health care than what you could expect from todays NHS.

The way people with downs syndrome are buried in the middle ages, and the ages they lived to, showed that there was a great deal of communal care.

And there were medical specialists, so it wasn't quite as awful as made out.

Sorry, you extrapolate an assumption base no one 6000 year old skeleton to support your theory on life expectency in the middle ages?

I give up. I'd have more luck trying to get Osama Bin Laden to be handfed a pork sandwich from a jewish lapdancer than get sense from you.