Oh Dear

[Chico]

The courts and the law have enough difficulty sorting this out, and I dont know the answer

I do - if all sexual activity was confined to marriage then we would not have the rapes and other ills our so called permissive culture has foisted upon us.

[xoggoth]

That's what I thought when I read it. Two possible meanings. Did the respondents mean they deserve to be raped? or did some simply mean they are asking for trouble as DG is implying. Answers no and possibly.

I wonder if there is also a cultural element in this. Some do not seem so advanced (in theory anyhow) in regard for women.

[vista]

Lefty trap

An amnesty international poll has reported that 20% of 1000 people polled agree that women are partially responsible if they are raped when

They dress provocatively
Get drunk
Behave flirtateously

The comments here make interesting reading.

What do you lot think. Personally I cannot think of a situation when a woman would be 'asking for it'

Women should be able to walk about starkers flirting with anyone they want safe in the knowledge that nothing will happen unless they want it to. However in this ideal world bliar wouldn't have made it beyond an embyo and brown would be selling his ass on some glasgow dock.

Rapist should be castrated or imprisoned for 30 years or more.

However........

If a woman dresses provocatively and flirts with 'bad men' there is a chance that she will get raped instead of the plain withdrawn woman that keeps her head down, fact. It isn't right, it doesn't excuse the rapist for an instant and shouldn't play any part in his 30 years or castration but if you want to reduce your chances of getting raped don't put it about or on display and if you don't like this situation stop voiting labour, expel all lefties from any position of power and support enforcing the law with sentances that mean something.

Our society will get as much crime as its prepared to tolerate.

Are our resident lefties happy that another soul was sacrificed on the alter of political correctness, two police women paired because the police don't see gender, blood thirsty feckers.

[Joe Black]

The courts and the law have enough difficulty sorting this out, and I dont know the answer

Perhaps as good a recommendation as any for the principle of not publicly identifying the accused until proven guilty. Something which unfortunately isn't the case at the moment...

[threaded]

Gosh how sterotyped a good few of you seem to see things. "Asking for it", what tosh

Rapists on the whole don't go for the flirtatious strong willed good looking women, but for average looking, the ones that are trying to avoid being noticed, the ones who are quiet, the ones they can scare. For these criminals rape is essentially a power thing, and that is what the rapist is getting off on.

Only a small percentage of rapists attack flirtatiously dressed women and these perps are generally deranged due to substance abuse and it does not matter if it a woman or a man, what they look like, or anything like that, the victim was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

So, statistically speaking it is probably safer for a woman to be "power dressing" it is more likely to put the rapist off.

[vista]

Gosh how sterotyped a good few of you seem to see things. "Asking for it", what tosh

Rapists on the whole don't go for the flirtatious strong willed good looking women, but for average looking, the ones that are trying to avoid being noticed, the ones who are quiet, the ones they can scare. For these criminals rape is essentially a power thing, and that is what the rapist is getting off on.

Only a small percentage of rapists attack flirtatiously dressed women and these perps are generally deranged due to substance abuse and it does not matter if it a woman or a man, what they look like, or anything like that, the victim was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

So, statistically speaking it is probably safer for a woman to be "power dressing" it is more likely to put the rapist off.

PURE C0CK CUSTARD

[OwlHoot]

I do - if all sexual activity was confined to marriage then we would not have the rapes and other ills our so called permissive culture has foisted upon us.

Except that a husband these days can be convicted of raping his wife...

[hyperD]

I do - if all sexual activity was confined to marriage then we would not have the rapes and other ills our so called permissive culture has foisted upon us.

Except that a husband these days can be convicted of raping his wife...

Interesting dilema - rape within a marriage based on an outmoded religious doctrine is well documented and sadly the women often feel compelled to stay in abusive relationships by scripture mandating them to submit to their husbands.

However the law changed in 1991 in England to recognise this crime, encouraged by a more permissive society, which has enabled the victim to escape further abuse.

[John Galt]

Gosh how sterotyped a good few of you seem to see things. "Asking for it", what tosh

Rapists on the whole don't go for the flirtatious strong willed good looking women, but for average looking, the ones that are trying to avoid being noticed, the ones who are quiet, the ones they can scare. For these criminals rape is essentially a power thing, and that is what the rapist is getting off on.

Only a small percentage of rapists attack flirtatiously dressed women and these perps are generally deranged due to substance abuse and it does not matter if it a woman or a man, what they look like, or anything like that, the victim was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

So, statistically speaking it is probably safer for a woman to be "power dressing" it is more likely to put the rapist off.

Couldn't agree more Threaded. I think most psychiatrists would agree with you. Rape has very little to do with the sexual act, it is a power trip for the rapist and, as you so rightly say, the fear factor is what spurs him on. These men are essentially cowards who get off on the domination of those he considers weaker - women are the easiest targets.

[Chico]

Interesting dilema - rape within a marriage based on an outmoded religious doctrine is well documented and sadly the women often feel compelled to stay in abusive relationships by scripture mandating them to submit to their husbands.

However the law changed in 1991 in England to recognise this crime, encouraged by a more permissive society, which has enabled the victim to escape further abuse.

Hyper - are you married? It quite interesting when people go quoting scripture to justify their ignorance. I could post a long riposte on everything you said but I will not as Nicky Gumbel (much more eloquent than myself) talked about this about a month ago and will do a much better job. If you are genuinely interested on knowing what the Bible has to say about marriage and the roles of the husband and wife then I suggest you download this talk to you Ipod or your MP3 player.

'How to Revolutionise your Relationships: Part 1 - Husbands and Wives'