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Many 'right-on' PC Labour councils allow the building of almost unlimited number of mosques (usually with a grant attached) because they want to get some extra votes. Anyone who disagrees with this is called a 'racist'. Many then protest by voting for the BNP loonies.
Many 'right-on' policies like the State paying for interpreters and translators has created more problems for the same people it was supposed to help - they live in ghettos where all their neighbours speak their native language, they go to work for an employer who speaks the native tongue and that employer usually takes advantage and pays them less than minimum wage.
Lets have a mature debate and stop labelling people racist. I'm waiting for the day when someone who is unfairly called a racist sues for slander.
Many 'right-on' PC Labour councils allow the building of almost unlimited number of mosques (usually with a grant attached) because they want to get some extra votes.
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Lets have a mature debate and stop labelling people racist. I'm waiting for the day when someone who is unfairly called a racist sues for slander.
Perhaps the debate will become mature when people stop posting unsubstantiated allegations like your first paragraph above.
If you have proof of this let us see it.
Many 'right-on' policies like the State paying for interpreters and translators has created more problems for the same people it was supposed to help - they live in ghettos where all their neighbours speak their native language, they go to work for an employer who speaks the native tongue and that employer usually takes advantage and pays them less than minimum wage.
Every official communication I receive from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets is repeated in about 12 different languages.
The amount of waste paper that generates is an environmental nightmare.
Does that make me racist?
It is my fault, I am an ethnic minority where I live, I should make more of an effort to adopt the culture of my host (Bangladeshi) community.
Perhaps the debate will become mature when people stop posting unsubstantiated allegations like your first paragraph above.
If you have proof of this let us see it.
HTH etc etc etc
1) Travel to East Ham High Street and count the number of mosques for ONE road and then read the council's own literature on the grants its issued.
2) A few years back Newham council spent a fortune and completed gutted and renovated a block of flats not far from the West Ham football ground. The council then announced that the new occupants were going to be exclusively elderly people -this was fine. The next sentence said that it would be exclusively elderly Asians - this obviously pi**ed off the local whites.
Why is there now less antagonism towards Hindus or Blacks? Its generally because they do try to integrate with the host country. I know many Hindus who celebrate Christmas but likewise I've even had Muslim builders who insisted on working on Xmas day to make a point.
Many 'right-on' PC Labour councils allow the building of almost unlimited number of mosques (usually with a grant attached) because they want to get some extra votes. Anyone who disagrees with this is called a 'racist'. Many then protest by voting for the BNP loonies.
Many 'right-on' policies like the State paying for interpreters and translators has created more problems for the same people it was supposed to help - they live in ghettos where all their neighbours speak their native language, they go to work for an employer who speaks the native tongue and that employer usually takes advantage and pays them less than minimum wage.
Lets have a mature debate and stop labelling people racist. I'm waiting for the day when someone who is unfairly called a racist sues for slander.
This thread was a fairly balanced debate regarding racism yet you seem to have focused on muslims in particular. Why?
Many 'right-on' policies like the State paying for interpreters and translators has created more problems for the same people it was supposed to help - they live in ghettos where all their neighbours speak their native language, they go to work for an employer who speaks the native tongue and that employer usually takes advantage and pays them less than minimum wage.
I remember about 30 years ago the state of California proposed to teach children of Vietnamese parents all of their subjects in Vietnamese. That idea was stamped on very hard. Not by the right wing, but by the Vietnamese parents - I think they felt the same as you do.
As a descendent of economic migrants a few generations ago myself I am mindful of the expression 'there but for the grace of God', but after seeing George Osborne's speech last night concerning tough times ahead following on from the Panorama program this week explaining how the chain of illegal immigration is being pushed back into Africa with the connivance of Libya, I put forward my view that the last thing this country needs with 3 million and rising unemployed is to host yet more ill educated, unqualified economic migrants when we have our own home-grown talent(less) pool to consider. The kids around the breakfast table this morning all declared me to be right-wing racist and sent me to work with a flea in my ear, so what do you lot reckon?
1. does this view make me sound like a racist?
2. is stopping the influx a good or bad thing for our economy?
I don't think it's a racist thought but allow me to say that I think it's a very naive thought.
Do you think that you can stop the influx? Perhaps when it's only a few hundred thousands of people... let's see when it's a few hundred millions of them, even if all of us make a human wall we still wouldn't be able to stop them.
You cannot expect that the poor world will just die silently in their own countries, they will try to get in and get their share of food and sooner or later you won't be able to stop that influx so I think it's rather important to try to solve this difference rather than debating on an impossible border closure.
I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.
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