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    #21
    Originally posted by threaded View Post
    Originally posted by bogeyman View Post
    Originally posted by threaded View Post
    ASN.1 and CORBA: those that don't know them are doomed to re-implement them, badly.
    Implement CORBA badly!?
    Yes, even Sun managed that with the first couple of goes at RMI. Then they discovered the one true protocol: IIOP.
    I think the point was that CORBA sucked so hard in the first place that even something that implemented it badly couldn't be any worse than CORBA was to start with.

    I remember printing off the original document defining CORBA, more than ten years ago. As I read it I kept thinking "WTF?" but assuming that the people who wrote it were smarter than me, so it must be fail on my end that made it seem like a useless mess.

    Now I know better: CORBA was a useless mess then, and it's a useless mess now.

    Those who don't understand REST are doomed to re-implement it badly. All CORBA ever was, was a particularly well-defined demonstration of that fact.

    EDIT: another good example of a heavily-over-specced technology that totally missed the point was SOAP (and all the associated nonsense) on which so much time and money was wasted. I assume there are people supporting this garbage even now, who maybe don't even realise that there was no need for any of it.
    Last edited by NickFitz; 6 October 2009, 00:00. Reason: Then there's SOAP...

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      #22
      Hey Pogle, please educate.

      What is "reverse pivoting"?

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        #23
        Originally posted by OrangeHopper View Post
        Hey Pogle, please educate.

        What is "reverse pivoting"?
        Pivot is converting columns to rows
        Reverse pivoting is converting rows to columns



        Not sure if link will work -

        https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/displa...everse%20Pivot
        Last edited by Pogle; 6 October 2009, 07:58. Reason: I cant spell - OK!!!
        I'm sorry, but I'll make no apologies for this

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          #24
          Originally posted by zeitghost
          I liked Soap. It was a good programme. It had Billy Crystal in it.
          I used to like it too, but saw some repeats recently and felt it was best left as a memory
          I'm sorry, but I'll make no apologies for this

          Pogle is awarded +5 Xeno Geek Points.
          CUK University Challenge Champions 2010
          CUK University Challenge Champions 2012

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            #25
            Thanks Pogle.

            I'm just too old school. I just do things. Now you find that academics have invented terms to describe everything. A serious problem when it comes to interviews!

            Which suite of BI tools do you specialise in?

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              #26
              Originally posted by OrangeHopper View Post
              Thanks Pogle.

              I'm just too old school. I just do things. Now you find that academics have invented terms to describe everything. A serious problem when it comes to interviews!

              Which suite of BI tools do you specialise in?
              Business Objects, have also done SSIS and a bit of Cognos, but exclusivly BOBJ these days.
              I'm sorry, but I'll make no apologies for this

              Pogle is awarded +5 Xeno Geek Points.
              CUK University Challenge Champions 2010
              CUK University Challenge Champions 2012

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                #27
                Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
                I think the point was that CORBA sucked so hard in the first place that even something that implemented it badly couldn't be any worse than CORBA was to start with.

                I remember printing off the original document defining CORBA, more than ten years ago. As I read it I kept thinking "WTF?" but assuming that the people who wrote it were smarter than me, so it must be fail on my end that made it seem like a useless mess.

                Now I know better: CORBA was a useless mess then, and it's a useless mess now.

                Those who don't understand REST are doomed to re-implement it badly. All CORBA ever was, was a particularly well-defined demonstration of that fact.

                EDIT: another good example of a heavily-over-specced technology that totally missed the point was SOAP (and all the associated nonsense) on which so much time and money was wasted. I assume there are people supporting this garbage even now, who maybe don't even realise that there was no need for any of it.

                I remember being forced to use Orbix at work back in 96/97. I gave up when hello world took an hour to compile.

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                  #28
                  You're never going to sell something called "SOAP" to programmers

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mrdonuts View Post
                    anyone ever met women programmers who knew what they were doing ?
                    Beyond sticking the kettle on you mean?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                      Beyond sticking the kettle on you mean?

                      You know you want it



                      CM will be along later
                      Fiscal nomad it's legal.

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