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    #41
    I'm not a quant or an economist, but the way I see it the fundamental problems are simple: Government and personal debts are both substantial, and have been getting bigger at an accelerating rate even during times of growth.

    Those simple facts were there for all to see a few years ago (and some on CUK have commented on it), but there were so many vested interests that they were largely ignored. The likes of Vince Cable (and, it appears, Menelaus) were shouted down.

    To compete with each other in this environment, banks ventured into higher and higher risk lending, and we all know what happened. We are now at the point where people think "saving the banks" has resolved the problems.

    However, the current "revival" can only be a blip because the fundamental problems are still there, and they are getting worse.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
      I'm not a quant or an economist, but the way I see it the fundamental problems are simple: Government and personal debts are both substantial, and have been getting bigger at an accelerating rate even during times of growth.

      Those simple facts were there for all to see a few years ago (and some on CUK have commented on it), but there were so many vested interests that they were largely ignored. The likes of Vince Cable (and, it appears, Menelaus) were shouted down.

      To compete with each other in this environment, banks ventured into higher and higher risk lending, and we all know what happened. We are now at the point where people think "saving the banks" has resolved the problems.

      However, the current "revival" can only be a blip because the fundamental problems are still there, and they are getting worse.
      You are absolutely right. I have been shouting for ages that all that is happening is that politicians are papering over the cracks in a (hopefully) vain attempt to hold on to power. The fundamentals of the problems are not being dealt with....so this will happen again, and next time it will be far worse because the cupboards will be even more bare.
      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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        #43
        1200 Jobs to go at Fujitsu UK
        Numbly tolerating the inequality as a way to achieve greater prosperity for all.

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          #44
          Originally posted by George Parr View Post
          J Sainsbury's hiring 20,000 at Xmas.

          http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...hristmas-staff

          One job is lost and 10x are created by New Labour.

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            #45
            Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
            J Sainsbury's hiring 20,000 at Xmas.

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...hristmas-staff

            One job is lost and 10x are created by New Labour.

            To repeat an old gag, "Let them stack cake"
            How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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              #46
              Pretty much all of economics seems to be founded on pillocking around with paper (and electronic) crap that doesn't really exist so what has changed? The people in Iceland are mostly still carrying on as normal.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
                Pretty much all of economics seems to be founded on pillocking around with paper (and electronic) crap that doesn't really exist so what has changed? The people in Iceland are mostly still carrying on as normal.
                Everything will be fine there now, they are going to join the EU
                Numbly tolerating the inequality as a way to achieve greater prosperity for all.

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