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    #21
    Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
    Instead of wishing for luck, why not just do two backups before you start? And have a proper test plan? And allow yourselves enough time to do a roll-back?
    Wimp!
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      #22
      Dicky,

      on a production support pack stack upgrade weekend for a .net landscape, there is no reverse gear, there is no turning back, you keep going until it all works no matter what

      Milan.

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        #23
        THere is always a backout plan. I usually invoke it 5 minutes in to the rollout, then take the rest of the weekend off.

        Go virtual. Snapshot the VM, apply patches, if all else fails, revert to snapshot. Easy

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          #24
          Originally posted by milanbenes View Post
          on a production support pack stack upgrade weekend for a .net landscape, there is no reverse gear, there is no turning back, you keep going until it all works no matter what
          Rubbish.

          What's your DR plan? Just invoke that.

          Or do a pilot upgrade first as a trial. Or a phased upgrade. And that's assuming you haven't got a parallel system. But big bag? Is the client mad or stupid?

          Mind you, if it's a support stack, pah!, that's hardly a live system is it?
          My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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            #25
            Dicky,

            with the greatest of respect, you're not from the .net area are you

            Milan.

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              #26
              Originally posted by milanbenes View Post
              with the greatest of respect, you're not from the .net area are you
              You're right. I'm talking out of my arse.

              Have a nice weekend.
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                #27
                I was joking about the wimp thing and RC is correct - you need a rollback plan. (I do agree this is problematic with the monolithic piece of crap that is the .net framework).On the other hand one tends not to get paid so handsomely for rollback plans ..
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                  #28
                  in the .net world it does not work like that

                  today in the .net world there are so many support pack stack version dependencies between the different components that everything has to have the level raised and there can be no turning back for any component, the whole lot has to be be finished successfully, ideally within the planned downtime, but if there are problems it will take as long as it takes

                  no roll back, no reverse gear

                  Milan.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by milanbenes View Post
                    in the .net world it does not work like that

                    today in the .net world there are so many support pack stack version dependencies between the different components that everything has to have the level raised and there can be no turning back for any component, the whole lot has to be be finished successfully, ideally within the planned downtime, but if there are problems it will take as long as it takes

                    no roll back, no reverse gear

                    Milan.
                    Sorry Milan but that just ain't right. If any tool makes software that renders the rollback idea impossible, 'tis a bigger tool that installs it.
                    You must have a way out!
                    Good luck to you though - you'll be coining it in for weeks.
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                      #30
                      with the greatest of respect folks you are commenting on an area of IT you know nothing about

                      Milan.

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