Reply to: Wish us luck

[ThomasSoerensen]

Let the thread die.

I wish you the stamina of Rasputin and the patience of Yoda.

[milanbenes]

he he

morning Franko, hope you and family are enjoying the summer

sounds idilic 'sunny side of the alps'



Milan.

[Francko]

with the greatest of respect folks you are commenting on an area of IT you know nothing about

Milan.

I guess that's what contracting is about.... :-)


Oi Milan, greetings from the sunny side of the Alps.

Ciao

[milanbenes]

with the greatest of respect folks you are commenting on an area of IT you know nothing about

Milan.

[Zippy]

in the .net world it does not work like that

today in the .net world there are so many support pack stack version dependencies between the different components that everything has to have the level raised and there can be no turning back for any component, the whole lot has to be be finished successfully, ideally within the planned downtime, but if there are problems it will take as long as it takes

no roll back, no reverse gear

Milan.

Sorry Milan but that just ain't right. If any tool makes software that renders the rollback idea impossible, 'tis a bigger tool that installs it.
You must have a way out!
Good luck to you though - you'll be coining it in for weeks.

[milanbenes]

in the .net world it does not work like that

today in the .net world there are so many support pack stack version dependencies between the different components that everything has to have the level raised and there can be no turning back for any component, the whole lot has to be be finished successfully, ideally within the planned downtime, but if there are problems it will take as long as it takes

no roll back, no reverse gear

Milan.

[Zippy]

I was joking about the wimp thing and RC is correct - you need a rollback plan. (I do agree this is problematic with the monolithic piece of crap that is the .net framework).On the other hand one tends not to get paid so handsomely for rollback plans ..

[RichardCranium]

with the greatest of respect, you're not from the .net area are you

You're right. I'm talking out of my arse.

Have a nice weekend.

[milanbenes]

Dicky,

with the greatest of respect, you're not from the .net area are you

Milan.

[RichardCranium]

on a production support pack stack upgrade weekend for a .net landscape, there is no reverse gear, there is no turning back, you keep going until it all works no matter what

Rubbish.

What's your DR plan? Just invoke that.

Or do a pilot upgrade first as a trial. Or a phased upgrade. And that's assuming you haven't got a parallel system. But big bag? Is the client mad or stupid?

Mind you, if it's a support stack, pah!, that's hardly a live system is it?

[JoJoGabor]

THere is always a backout plan. I usually invoke it 5 minutes in to the rollout, then take the rest of the weekend off.

Go virtual. Snapshot the VM, apply patches, if all else fails, revert to snapshot. Easy

[milanbenes]

Dicky,

on a production support pack stack upgrade weekend for a .net landscape, there is no reverse gear, there is no turning back, you keep going until it all works no matter what

Milan.

[Zippy]

Instead of wishing for luck, why not just do two backups before you start? And have a proper test plan? And allow yourselves enough time to do a roll-back?

Wimp!

[RichardCranium]

fingers crossed

this weekend is a worry

it's like the tide's coming in and there is no turning back just gotta keep going until all issues are resolved and the business signs off all systems

Instead of wishing for luck, why not just do two backups before you start? And have a proper test plan? And allow yourselves enough time to do a roll-back?

[thelace]

Thomas, dude we're on rampup for 5 of the components, for all the components we're going to highest available where possible 7.0 EHP or 7.1 EHP etc

Is there only me out here that this means nothing at all to?

Best of luck though!