Interview & reference requirement lies

[Menelaus]

I tried and I can do more than that.

I find out on Monday.

Good work fella - have a great weekend.

[OwlHoot]

I tried and I can do more than that.

I find out on Monday.

Best of luck, as long as you're not a perl developer applying for contract at a certain media company

[Zippy]

Best of luck, as long as you're not a perl developer applying for contract at a certain media company

Fight?

[Zippy]

Don't forget to come back on Monday and let us know. Baggsy RC's spot on the bench.

[TykeMerc]

Your VoR is talking sense. When I was a hiring manager, if I received the CV from two sources, I dealt with the agent (I said) I got it from first.

I've never heard of a hiring manager binning a CV with multiple submission, except in contractor forums. However, I can see it happening if the role is fairly low level, and one candidate is pretty much going to be the same as another.

It's more agency FUD.

Sadly it's not.
I've been in that situation myself when hiring resource for a client and I was given clear instructions by HR and the Programme Director to bin both copies of any duplicate CV's from multiple agencies.
Apparently they were burned in the past by 2 agents fighting over 1 offer to a contractor and they didn't want to put up with the hassle all over again.

It's deeply annoying, but it does happen

Oh and fingers crossed for you Mr Cranium

[NickFitz]

I tried and I can do no more than that.

I find out on Monday.

Good luck!

[expat]

Sadly it's not.
I've been in that situation myself when hiring resource for a client and I was given clear instructions by HR and the Programme Director to bin both copies of any duplicate CV's from multiple agencies.
Apparently they were burned in the past by 2 agents fighting over 1 offer to a contractor and they didn't want to put up with the hassle all over again.

It's deeply annoying, but it does happen

Oh and fingers crossed for you Mr Cranium

How do they get burned? What's the problem?

I asked my Voice of Reason how her construction-industry employers would react to 2 agents hassling them over i subcontractor. They'd tell them both to **** off, she said.

[TykeMerc]

How do they get burned? What's the problem?

I asked my Voice of Reason how her construction-industry employers would react to 2 agents hassling them over i subcontractor. They'd tell them both to **** off, she said.

They had to deal with multiple phone calls, emails, letters and even solicitors contacts that had to be escallated to their legal department from the two Agents that were trying to claim ownership.
Ended up withdrawing the offer and having to repeat the interviewing and hiring process all over again that cost time, money and put the programme back by 6 weeks.
As useless as the Agents action was the client still had to deal with the fallout and the easiest way to avoid repeating it was to make a policy of bin any duplicated CV's.

[NotAllThere]

I was also involved in similar wrangling. The client even sent me to talk to their legal department, which was great - we spent 10 minutes talking about the case, and 50 minutes talking about contracting. The client was able to discern that it was the agency that was causing trouble. Mind you, the client was run by engineers, not by HR.

So, even when it is policy to ditch duplicates (which is a STUPID policy - you want the BEST person for the job, don't you? ), it's still the agencies fault.

If I was in their shoes, I'd say. "OK. Well, I think he was mine, but, tell you what - how about you give me first dibs on the next requirement?" Short-termism, and too much exposure to the US. *sigh*

[expat]

I have to confess that I am missing something. If an agent claims to "own" a contractor, don't you just ask him to show you the piece of paper that says so, or piss off? If the agent merely claims that he saw the contractor first so he ought to have dibs, tell him you don't work that way but if the contractor agrees then you might take that into account. The client (and the contractor) should not be crucified on the agents' disagreement between themselves.

IMHO if 2 agencies both claimed to have priority on a contractor without his having agreed that with either of them, and the contractor loses the contract because of that, then he should have grounds to sue the agencies for loss of business.

But my main point was the stupidity of clients rejecting the best candidate just because 2 salesmen argued about who should take a cut from his earnings.