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    #11
    This will end up in court. Seriously though, just imagine the lawsuits when a client loses a case or loses some money then discovers the legal documents were made in India by staff with no experience in England. You'll have clients sueing English lawyers, who hire other English lawyers to defend themselves while hiring Indian lawyers to sue other Indian lawyers for buggering up, and Indian lawyers hiring Indian AND English lawyers to defend themselves against accusations of buggering it up. Do you follow me?
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #12
      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
      This will end up in court ... Do you follow me?
      And who will pay for all of that?

      It'll still be the bloody lawyers winning.
      My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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        #13
        Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
        And who will pay for all of that?
        The consumer/taxpayer.
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #14
          Originally posted by Board Game Geek View Post

          By not negotiating a reduction in their fees, they are now on precisely £0 instead of perhaps 20-30K. Even 7K a year is better than £0.
          I can't agree. Being a lawyer requires a lot of investment, and is actually quite stressful.

          I certainly wouldn't want to do it for 7k a year. I'd rather be a bin-man, same amount of money get a good walk in every day and it's outdoors.
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            #15
            Originally posted by GreenerGrass View Post
            The trend for outsourcing in professional occupations outside IT grows - http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...dia/article.do
            As I predicted some months ago.

            The situation will become a lot worse soon when the EU introduce rules to 'harmonize' the profession across EU states. We will then see a flood of excellently trained and intelligent legal professionals from Eastern Europe that will be willing to work for even less than the Indians are.

            The sleepy UK legal profession wont know what hit them!

            PZZ

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              #16
              Originally posted by zeitghost
              Will the Spear Shaker had it right; first kill all the lawyers...
              I agree with the words, but this has to be the greatest out of context line ever.
              How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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                #17
                Lawyers

                Ok so nobody is going to cry over a few redundant lawyers.

                In everything I have read about globalisation(Which is not really that much), nobody seems to have tackled the backlash, which at the risk of oversimplification, what happens when all the western worlds jobs are lost to globalisation? As processes for everything become more streamlined and technology and communications improve, everything will eventually be made or serviced from low cost destinations. So from this brief and inarticulate synopsis let me try and extrapolate some IMHO, burning questions.

                1) Outsourcing of goods and services to more competive locations is usually to provide goods and services for the outsourcer nation. So what happens eventually? The host nation's purchasing power and disposable income and output decrease as unemployment increases. If the trend continues, surely their must reach a point when the demand no longer exists for the goods and services, in the host nation , owing to a decimated job market.

                2) If we accept (I will use ship building as an example), that outsourcing results in loss of skills in the host nations, surely as this happens the best and the brightest will move to previous "outsourcing" destinations to get the best opportunities resulting in higer levels of inflation that previous outsourcer destinations so at some point the cost of living will become higher in Mumbai and Manilla than London?

                So if I understand this correctly, the UK, being an "outsourcer", will eventually lose its industries, skills and talented people until such point that its cost base deflates to a point where its becomes financially viable to produce goods and services here again?

                The only winners are the large multinational conglomerates, the man in the street loses as he and his family eventually become global migrants.

                The governements lose as they need to cope with providing services for massively upnpredicatable transient populations.

                I understand that globalsation has improved the lot of many people in the third world, which seems to be its only selling point.

                My main thought is, is globalisation neccessary and unavoidable? Are there other options?
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                  #18
                  It's international socialism by the back door
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
                    It's international socialism by the back door
                    I read it as the opposite. Corporations (and therefore shareholders) hold the control, not the governments. Governments have less ability to intervene as there's nothing left for them to meddle with.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Pondlife View Post
                      I read it as the opposite. Corporations (and therefore shareholders) hold the control, not the governments. Governments have less ability to intervene as there's nothing left for them to meddle with.
                      everyone is reduced to the same level of poorness, but without the revolution. Everything deteriorates, services, skills, education.

                      Mind you, they had this debate a few hundred years ago, the free traders won, and it has generally been seen as a good thing. So what do I know


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