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    <RANT> have just been to speak with the senior tester on how to replicate the clients inbound integration messages as their [the client] system is flaky at best and testing of our system needs to be done asap.

    Spent ages explaining step by step
    speaking slowly
    asking if he understood as I proceeded.
    He nodded with that glazed over look of "i dont have a clue"
    i asked him to demonstrate back to me what i'd just said
    he couldnt, so i explained in more simple terms
    repeated the demo request, he couldnt

    FFS, how dumbed down does it have to be </RANT>

    Solution: spend a day writing a click by click idiot guide for them to hand hold them through what is in fact an extremely simple process, ergo 1 days easy billing for Chef

    Testers, cant work with them, cant bang their head on the desk..

    (no personal offence intended Mich)
    The proud owner of 125 Xeno Geek Points

    #2
    Originally posted by chef View Post
    <RANT> have just been to speak with the senior tester on how to replicate the clients inbound integration messages as their [the client] system is flaky at best and testing of our system needs to be done asap.

    Spent ages explaining step by step
    speaking slowly
    asking if he understood as I proceeded.
    He nodded with that glazed over look of "i dont have a clue"
    i asked him to demonstrate back to me what i'd just said
    he couldnt, so i explained in more simple terms
    repeated the demo request, he couldnt

    FFS, how dumbed down does it have to be </RANT>

    Solution: spend a day writing a click by click idiot guide for them to hand hold them through what is in fact an extremely simple process, ergo 1 days easy billing for Chef

    Testers, cant work with them, cant bang their head on the desk..

    (no personal offence intended Mich)
    The immediate question that springs to mind is: Why???

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      #3
      Originally posted by Drewster View Post
      The immediate question that springs to mind is: Why???
      Try it and find out.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #4
        Originally posted by chef View Post

        Testers, cant work with them, cant bang their head on the desk..
        How about a brick wall?
        If your company is the best place to work in, for a mere £500 p/d, you can advertise here.

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          #5
          If you want the test to be really thorough, you'd should bang his head on the desk continuously for 48 hours and then check if there is any deterioration in performance.

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            #6
            Originally posted by chef View Post
            <RANT> have just been to speak with the senior tester on how to replicate the clients inbound integration messages as their [the client] system is flaky at best and testing of our system needs to be done asap.

            Spent ages explaining step by step
            speaking slowly
            asking if he understood as I proceeded.
            He nodded with that glazed over look of "i dont have a clue"
            i asked him to demonstrate back to me what i'd just said
            he couldnt, so i explained in more simple terms
            repeated the demo request, he couldnt

            FFS, how dumbed down does it have to be </RANT>

            Solution: spend a day writing a click by click idiot guide for them to hand hold them through what is in fact an extremely simple process, ergo 1 days easy billing for Chef

            Testers, cant work with them, cant bang their head on the desk..

            (no personal offence intended Mich)
            If he's a 'Senior Tester' he should know that the best way to understand an explanation is to sit down with you at the computer and work through the problem while you tell him the steps he has to take. At each step he can then demonstrate he's understood what you're saying and write down notes for himself.

            Not exactly rocket science.
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
              If he's a 'Senior Tester' he should know that the best way to understand an explanation is to sit down with you at the computer and work through the problem while you tell him the steps he has to take. At each step he can then demonstrate he's understood what you're saying and write down notes for himself.

              Not exactly rocket science.
              I suggested that, all I got in reply was "no no it's fine, go ahead and show me"

              even after attempt 3 he still refused to make a note, I get the feeling he's either thick as pigsh!t or for some unknown reason just being difficult. Simple solution was to give up on the 1-1 demo and respond to the PM's request for the demo to be given to him with an email along the following lines..

              "I attempted to explain it to him several times in increasingly more simple terms and <idiot tester> was unable to grasp the concept. It seems that the best solution would be to write a simple click by click walkthrough guide which <idiot tester> can then distribute to his team. This will take me 1 working day to produce. Chef"

              Job done.
              The proud owner of 125 Xeno Geek Points

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                #8
                Originally posted by chef View Post
                I suggested that, all I got in reply was "no no it's fine, go ahead and show me"

                even after attempt 3 he still refused to make a note, I get the feeling he's either thick as pigsh!t or for some unknown reason just being difficult. Simple solution was to give up on the 1-1 demo and respond to the PM's request for the demo to be given to him with an email along the following lines..

                "I attempted to explain it to him several times in increasingly more simple terms and <idiot tester> was unable to grasp the concept. It seems that the best solution would be to write a simple click by click walkthrough guide which <idiot tester> can then distribute to his team. This will take me 1 working day to produce. Chef"

                Job done.
                Is <idiot tester> a permie? Or is he contractor deliberately playing for time?
                And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                  #9
                  permie and from what others have said around here a lazy f##ker at that.
                  The proud owner of 125 Xeno Geek Points

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