sigh

[chef]

permie and from what others have said around here a lazy f##ker at that.

[Mich the Tester]

I suggested that, all I got in reply was "no no it's fine, go ahead and show me"

even after attempt 3 he still refused to make a note, I get the feeling he's either thick as pigsh!t or for some unknown reason just being difficult. Simple solution was to give up on the 1-1 demo and respond to the PM's request for the demo to be given to him with an email along the following lines..

"I attempted to explain it to him several times in increasingly more simple terms and <idiot tester> was unable to grasp the concept. It seems that the best solution would be to write a simple click by click walkthrough guide which <idiot tester> can then distribute to his team. This will take me 1 working day to produce. Chef"

Job done.

Is <idiot tester> a permie? Or is he contractor deliberately playing for time?

[chef]

If he's a 'Senior Tester' he should know that the best way to understand an explanation is to sit down with you at the computer and work through the problem while you tell him the steps he has to take. At each step he can then demonstrate he's understood what you're saying and write down notes for himself.

Not exactly rocket science.

I suggested that, all I got in reply was "no no it's fine, go ahead and show me"

even after attempt 3 he still refused to make a note, I get the feeling he's either thick as pigsh!t or for some unknown reason just being difficult. Simple solution was to give up on the 1-1 demo and respond to the PM's request for the demo to be given to him with an email along the following lines..

"I attempted to explain it to him several times in increasingly more simple terms and <idiot tester> was unable to grasp the concept. It seems that the best solution would be to write a simple click by click walkthrough guide which <idiot tester> can then distribute to his team. This will take me 1 working day to produce. Chef"

Job done.

[Mich the Tester]

<RANT> have just been to speak with the senior tester on how to replicate the clients inbound integration messages as their [the client] system is flaky at best and testing of our system needs to be done asap.

Spent ages explaining step by step
speaking slowly
asking if he understood as I proceeded.
He nodded with that glazed over look of "i dont have a clue"
i asked him to demonstrate back to me what i'd just said
he couldnt, so i explained in more simple terms
repeated the demo request, he couldnt

FFS, how dumbed down does it have to be </RANT>

Solution: spend a day writing a click by click idiot guide for them to hand hold them through what is in fact an extremely simple process, ergo 1 days easy billing for Chef

Testers, cant work with them, cant bang their head on the desk..

(no personal offence intended Mich)

If he's a 'Senior Tester' he should know that the best way to understand an explanation is to sit down with you at the computer and work through the problem while you tell him the steps he has to take. At each step he can then demonstrate he's understood what you're saying and write down notes for himself.

Not exactly rocket science.

[thunderlizard]

If you want the test to be really thorough, you'd should bang his head on the desk continuously for 48 hours and then check if there is any deterioration in performance.

[pmeswani]

Testers, cant work with them, cant bang their head on the desk..

How about a brick wall?

[Mich the Tester]

The immediate question that springs to mind is: Why???

Try it and find out.

[Drewster]

<RANT> have just been to speak with the senior tester on how to replicate the clients inbound integration messages as their [the client] system is flaky at best and testing of our system needs to be done asap.

Spent ages explaining step by step
speaking slowly
asking if he understood as I proceeded.
He nodded with that glazed over look of "i dont have a clue"
i asked him to demonstrate back to me what i'd just said
he couldnt, so i explained in more simple terms
repeated the demo request, he couldnt

FFS, how dumbed down does it have to be </RANT>

Solution: spend a day writing a click by click idiot guide for them to hand hold them through what is in fact an extremely simple process, ergo 1 days easy billing for Chef

Testers, cant work with them, cant bang their head on the desk..

(no personal offence intended Mich)

The immediate question that springs to mind is: Why???

[chef]

<RANT> have just been to speak with the senior tester on how to replicate the clients inbound integration messages as their [the client] system is flaky at best and testing of our system needs to be done asap.

Spent ages explaining step by step
speaking slowly
asking if he understood as I proceeded.
He nodded with that glazed over look of "i dont have a clue"
i asked him to demonstrate back to me what i'd just said
he couldnt, so i explained in more simple terms
repeated the demo request, he couldnt

FFS, how dumbed down does it have to be </RANT>

Solution: spend a day writing a click by click idiot guide for them to hand hold them through what is in fact an extremely simple process, ergo 1 days easy billing for Chef

Testers, cant work with them, cant bang their head on the desk..

(no personal offence intended Mich)