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Michael Jackson Dies from Cardiac Arrest

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    Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure of the UK criminal prosecution system any more.

    I was in the jury for one trial in London. After four days of hearing the case, the judge threw out the charges because there was not enough evidence to support them.

    These were replaced with a less serious charge which half of the accused immediately pleaded guilty to.
    So what you are saying is that anyone that is given an not guilty verdict is still under suspicion?

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      Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
      I wouldn't be so sure of the UK criminal prosecution system any more.

      I was in the jury for one trial in London. After four days of hearing the case, the judge threw out the charges because there was not enough evidence to support them.

      These were replaced with a less serious charge which half of the accused immediately pleaded guilty to.
      Not enough evidence = the case against you cant be proved!

      PZZ

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        Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
        Not enough evidence = the case against you cant be proved!

        PZZ
        Proven.

        We in Scotland have a middle ground with the verdict of "not proven".

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          Originally posted by minestrone View Post
          Proven.

          We in Scotland have a middle ground with the verdict of "not proven".
          Bottom line - your ass is free.

          PZZ

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            Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
            Not enough evidence = the case against you cant be proved!

            PZZ
            I quite like that about the UK criminal justice system, although for efficacy I can see the case for allowing criminals to plea-bargain to unclog the court system but at the same time can see the POV that would argue that this system would deny justice to the less well off.

            But really, I don't care. It's none of my business any more.
            Last edited by Gonzo; 27 June 2009, 00:44.

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              Some more....

              Later that year Jordy filed a complaint against Jackson. Neverland Ranch was searched. Among other things, the book "The Boy, A Photographic Essay" was found, with photographs of nude children.
              The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

              But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
                Who said he did, there was never any evidence to suggest this??
                This information could of come from anywhere- some dirty sleaze paparazzi photographer peeping through a window, disgruntled staff, a guess, take your pick...

                PZZ
                It's from the LAPD report, maybe Jordan who he paid millions to was lying and the other little boy too. And the Judge who expressed "serious and grave concerns" was having a joke
                Last edited by Bagpuss; 27 June 2009, 00:46.
                The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                  Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
                  It's from the LAPD report, maybe Jordan who he paid millions to was lying and the other little boy too. And the Judge who expressed "serious and grave concerns" was having a joke
                  Was he found guilty of any crimes?

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                    Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
                    It's from the LAPD report, maybe Jordan who he paid millions to way lying and the other little boy too. And the Judge who expressed "serious and grave concerns" was having a joke
                    ..still no evidence strong enough to put MJ behind bars.
                    I would of thought that Jordan or the other kid standing up in court and saying 'he did it to me' would be enough even without a motive or physical evidence. Neither could do this their stories were not credible.

                    Im for putting fiddlers behind bars as much as anyone, but the case against MJ was not there so noting happened that a court could believe. All it would have taken was a few spoken words from the accusers & they could not bring themselves to do this.

                    PZZ

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                      Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                      Was he found guilty of any crimes?
                      Was OJ Simpson found guilty of mudering his wife?
                      The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                      But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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