Geert Wilders in Denmark: Deporting millions of Muslims may be necessary

[sasguru]

sas I'm glad you are enjoying my new sockpuppet.

Keeps you out of the grownup threads.

You'd think something as stupid must be a sockpuppet, no?

[Le Rosbif]

And if that person is under threat of deportation, is he still likely to answer 'yes, I'm a muslim'? If he's applying for a visa and knows he'll be turned down if he's a muslim, is he still likely to say 'yes, I'm a muslim'?

If on the other hand, he's a very moderate chappy who occasionally goes to the mosque and isn't very observant, but lives in a liberal society where he feels he has nothing to fear from speaking openly, is he likely to deny being a muslim?

You could ask millions of Europeans whether they are 'christians' and an awful lot of them would say 'yes I am'. Then you have the problem of explaining away all those empty churches.

I suppose you could then ask 'why are the mosques all full?' Well, firstly they aren't all full, and secondly, there are perhaps less mosques per thousand practising muslims than there are churches per thousand practising christians.

I never said that it was a simple issue that could be sorted with simple methods...

[sasguru]

I was in Toulouse when it happened.
I heard some of the riots shout "on va s'faire l'Eglise" = Let's put the church down.

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ah i see, you heard it, so that must explain everything.

I respectfully submit to you, sir, that you are several chips short of a McD's happy meal?

[TimberWolf]

Did you know..."Soap-dodging cheese-eating surrender-monkeys" doesn't translate well into French (according to Wiki) because the rules of French syntax do not allow such ready formation of nouns by noun stem compounding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese-...render_monkeys

[Le Rosbif]

...who've spent their lives being told they're useless barbarians and are getting a bit sick of it?

Or maybe because leftists have been telling for them decades that the reason for their failure is the bad racist, ex colonist whiteman?

They went to the same school as other children, got the same education, chances etc... They have the French nationality.

Other people are not responsible for their screw-ups

[Mich the Tester]

Or maybe because leftists have been telling them decades that the reason for their failure is the bad racist, ex colonist whiteman?

They went to the same school as other children, got the same education, chances etc... They have the French nationality.

Other people are not responsible for their screw-ups

Ah! At last! It took a while but at last you blamed the leftists!

I really think you're looking at a couple of incidents in a couple of large cities. There are muslims living all over France; in the cities you see the typical problems of inner city poverty, which involve all sorts of nastiness. Outside the cities you'll come across peaceful, easy going middle class 'muslims' who don't riot at all. In fact, I'd be interested in seeing figures showing what proportion of French 'muslims', or shall we say what proportion of French residents who call themselves muslims, actually took part in the riots.

Remember also that France has quite a tradition for riots; it's not as if the muslims were doing something that French christians and non-believers have never done. Not to say they were right, but why so much attention for rioting muslims when French students, government workers and farmers have quite a reputation for rioting too?

[sasguru]

Or maybe because leftists have been telling them decades that the reason for their failure is the bad racist, ex colonist whiteman?

They went to the same school as other children, got the same education, chances etc... They have the French nationality.

Other people are not responsible for their screw-ups

Your argument seems to veer all over the place.
I thought France was the land of rationalism and Descartes, yet you seem to argue like a hysterical old fish-wife.
Not a grad of the grand ecoles, clearly.

[Le Rosbif]

Ah! At last! It took a while but at last you blamed the leftists!

I really think you're looking at a couple of incidents in a couple of large cities. There are muslims living all over France; in the cities you see the typical problems of inner city poverty, which leads to all sorts of nastiness. Outside the cities you'll come across peaceful, easy going middle class 'muslims' who don't riot at all. In fact, I'd be interested in seeing figures showing what proportion of French 'muslims', or shall we say what proportion of French residents who call themselves muslims, actually took part in the riots.

Mich,

You'd be surprised how much small and medium towns are actually crippled by crime commited by young (French) muslims.
The figures is confirmed by the percentage of muslims in prison.

[Le Rosbif]

Your argument seems to veer all over the place.
I thought France was the land of rationalism and Descartes, yet you seem to argue like a hysterical old fish-wife.
Not a grad of the grand ecoles, clearly.

no I graduated from the uni.

That's the reason why I came over to britain

[Le Rosbif]

Mich,

You'd be surprised how much small and medium towns are actually crippled by crime commited by young (French) muslims.
The figures is confirmed by the percentage of muslims in prison.

source:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042802560.html