Geert Wilders in Denmark: Deporting millions of Muslims may be necessary

[Numpty]

This is a long thread. Hmm.

Ooh, the temptation...

#303

I think CUK forums should request "licences to post".

With tough question like : 2+2= ?

That should reduce the number of posters by half

You got a palindrome!

[Le Rosbif]

Post links to these sources.

Will do. Gimme some time to dig them up.

[Le Rosbif]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...1/435tebxi.asp

The government, which is working desperately to formulate an official policy on Islam, now estimates its Muslim population at 4 to 5 million. Most social scientists believe this number is too low, speaking of as many as 8 million Muslims in France (and 12 to 20 million in the European Union).

[sasguru]

Will do. Gimme some time to dig them up.

OK. Make sure the quality of argument is higher than you have exhibited so far, won't you?
And ensure they address the points raised in the link in my last post.

[snaw]

Most social scientists believe this number is too low, speaking of as many as 8 million Muslims in France (and 12 to 20 million in the European Union).

A report from the DGSN (french national secret police) leaked on the internet. Their estimation of the muslim population in France is 8m, which is rougly 9%

So which one is it? The secret police, or the social scientists?

Or are they one and the same?

[Le Rosbif]

OK. Make sure the quality of argument is higher than you have exhibited so far, won't you?
And ensure they address the points raised in the link in my last post.

I think what would be interesting would be real numbers on:

- How many French muslims live in France
- How many non-french muslims live in France

Unfortunately information is scarce regarding those numbers.

Mainly because, since the vichy regime, the government is very reluctant to keep numbers based on the religion, ethnicity, etc...

[sasguru]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...1/435tebxi.asp

The government, which is working desperately to formulate an official policy on Islam, now estimates its Muslim population at 4 to 5 million. Most social scientists believe this number is too low, speaking of as many as 8 million Muslims in France (and 12 to 20 million in the European Union).

Can we have the name of one or two of these "social scientists"?
Maybe a link to a study or paper ?

[Mich the Tester]

since the vichy regime, the government is very reluctant to keep numbers based on the religion, ethnicity, etc...

Maybe that´s a good thing.

[sasguru]

I think what would be interesting would be real numbers on:

- How many French muslims live in France
- How many non-french muslims live in France

Unfortunately information is scarce regarding those numbers.

Mainly because, since the vichy regime, the government is very reluctant to keep numbers based on the religion, ethnicity, etc...

Established statistical methods exist to reliably estimate populations from samples (some might argue that is the whole of statistics).

[Churchill]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...1/435tebxi.asp

The government, which is working desperately to formulate an official policy on Islam, now estimates its Muslim population at 4 to 5 million. Most social scientists believe this number is too low, speaking of as many as 8 million Muslims in France (and 12 to 20 million in the European Union).

It looks like you lot should've left Algeria alone then.