100% May Well Be Untrue FACTS About the BNP

[Incognito]

For anyone still thinking this is all about immigrants getting council houses ahead of white taxi drivers you might want to consider..

You're preaching to the unconverted. I've already explained to you I don't vote BNP. Churchill has already explained he doesn't vote BNP. Who are you preaching to? I was simply stating that the BNP, all sugar coated and sweet at the moment, are the party that seem to be answering peoples fears about immigration. And let's face it, that is most probably the only reason why these people are voting BNP.

Do you think everyone who votes Tory wants to be in Europe? Do you think everyone who votes New Labour wants to see ID cards? Do you think all Pro-Europeans are Tory? Do you think all pro ID card voters are Labour?

By typecasting everyone who doesn't agree with you on immigration as a racist, you're doing just as much to engender that divide than they are. As I stated before, the only way to tackle the far right is to understand what's driving people to vote for them and while I agree with you that yes your stereotypical BNP skinhead just doesn't like blacks, the BNP are beginning to appeal to people outside that catchment.

[lilelvis2000]

Not sure if they are answering people fears...or exploiting them. I mean UKIP also is against immigration and to some extent no2EU. I suppose this terrorism stuff doesn't help either with the BNP anti-muslim stance. they're the only party openly against them which I think appeals to many as well.

[Churchill]

Not sure if they are answering people fears...or exploiting them. I mean UKIP also is against immigration and to some extent no2EU. I suppose this terrorism stuff doesn't help either with the BNP anti-muslim stance. they're the only party openly against them which I think appeals to many as well.

Being anti-muslim is not being racist.

[Menelaus]

Being anti-muslim is not being racist.

Very true.

But then, as Marcus Brigstocke pointed out:

"Muslims, listen up, my bearded and veily friends, calm down, okay? Stop blowing stuff up. Not everything that's said about you is an attack on the Prophet Muhammad and Allah, that needs to end in the infidel being destroyed. Have a cup of tea, put on a Cat Stevens record, sit down and chill out! I mean, seriously, what's wrong with a strongly worded letter to The Times?"

[Menelaus]

Being anti-muslim is not being racist.

Indeed.

As an anti-organised-religionist I'm not racist, I'm an atheist.

[Alf W]

There were a couple of questions on here asking if the BNP were racist and fascist. I just pointed out a few facts and links that suggest they are. I could also post evidence of the criminal past of some of the key members which includes stuff like racially motivated violence and rape (ie not fibbing under oath like a few Tories).

So the point is the BNP are more than just a party with a view but a group that incites violence and hatred towards groups of people. Organisations like that have no place in a civilised society.

[The Lone Gunman]

There were a couple of questions on here asking if the BNP were racist and fascist. I just pointed out a few facts and links that suggest they are. I could also post evidence of the criminal past of some of the key members which includes stuff like racially motivated violence and rape (ie not fibbing under oath like a few Tories).

So the point is the BNP are more than just a party with a view but a group that incites violence and hatred towards groups of people. Organisations like that have no place in a civilised society.

No, you pointed to other places that make the same assumptions and leaps of faith that I asked you not to.

I can point to criminal records for sex offenders thiefs cheats and liars amongst all the parties.

If you use the extrapolation that BNP was formed by fascists and racists therefore they still are then why are not living in a left wing/marxist totalitarian state or a national Kibutz?

Incitement to racial hatred is an offence in the UK and if the BNP were guilty of said offence they would be a banned organisation.

I am not asking you to support the BNP I am asking you to explain the evidence you have for claiming their policy is racist or fascist.

I do not dispute that at least some of its membership are also racist and fascist, but that does not transfer to the party or its policies directly.
I am sure soem football fans are racist, but I do not believe that translates to the supporters club being the same.

[minestrone]

While the BNP are not a racist party as such I am quite sure the vast majority of their members privately are and their voters have at least a tendency toward racist views.

Govan in Glasgow with a large asian population used to be a very tight seat between Labour and the SNP, labour supporters used to secretly curry support in the asian community by saying the SNP were just the same as the BNP.

[Churchill]

While the BNP are not a racist party as such I am quite sure the vast majority of their members privately are and their voters have at least a tendency toward racist views.

Govan in Glasgow with a large asian population used to be a very tight seat between Labour and the SNP, labour supporters used to secretly curry support in the asian community by saying the SNP were just the same as the BNP.

Your gut feeling does not equate to fact.

Are you sure that everybody who has voted for the BNP is racist?

[The Lone Gunman]

While the BNP are not a racist party as such I am quite sure the vast majority of their members privately are and their voters have at least a tendency toward racist views.

Govan in Glasgow with a large asian population used to be a very tight seat between Labour and the SNP, labour supporters used to secretly curry support in the asian community by saying the SNP were just the same as the BNP.

I saw what you did there