Intra Company Transfers

[The Lone Gunman]

This has been going on for a decade and shows the government up yet again for what they are. Too little, too late, and it is too late to bolt the stable door.

Bang goes my argument and any credibility I might have had.

[SillyMilly]

If the local IT skilled workforce are lazy and useless then they have no right to expect the employer not to send work offshore.

Thanks Dodgy! Don't you hold back now, just tell us what you really think of us! Still, what do you care as long as you can turn a profit on us lazy, useless contractors?

So are you going to speak on David Lewis's programme?

[DodgyAgent]

Thanks Dodgy! Don't you hold back now, just tell us what you really think of us! Still, what do you care as long as you can turn a profit on us lazy, useless contractors?

So are you going to speak on David Lewis's programme?

He is not interested in agents.

[The Lone Gunman]

He is not interested in agents.

That is a bit harsh. I know you wont have first hand experience, but I am sure you have a number on your books who have suffered what he is looking for.

[sasguru]

How should we adapt?
Assume a software dev on 40K per year loses their job to a cheaper import/offshore.
What can this person retrain in so as not to compromise their lifestyle.Your solution must be sustainable ie not vulnerable to off/on shoring.
Does your solution pan out to the thousands in similar positions?

Why is their lifestyle sacrosanct?
They could retrain to be a lawyer/doctor - something which is "local" - or a teacher for that matter - the country is short of good maths teachers.
They could be part of the global economy and travel abroad.
They could start a new business.
If they didn't have the enterprise to maintain their lifestyle, they could always stack shelves at Tesco.

No one is owed a living.

[snaw]

Why is their lifestyle sacrosanct?
They could retrain to be a lawyer/doctor - something which is "local" - or a teacher for that matter - the country is short of good maths teachers.
They could be part of the global economy and travel abroad.
They could start a new business.
If they didn't have the enterprise to maintain their lifestyle, they could always stack shelves at Tesco.

No one is owed a living.

Indeed.

Imagine the same argument applied to the miners 20 years ago ...

[Cyberman]

too expensive

Hardly. Permie salaries and contractor rates in my skill area are little more than they were over a decade ago.

[snaw]

Hardly. Permie salaries and contractor rates in my skill area are little more than they were over a decade ago.

You mean you're still playing the village idiot for nothing?

[The Lone Gunman]

Why is their lifestyle sacrosanct?
They could retrain to be a lawyer/doctor - something which is "local" - or a teacher for that matter - the country is short of good maths teachers.
They could be part of the global economy and travel abroad.
They could start a new business.
If they didn't have the enterprise to maintain their lifestyle, they could always stack shelves at Tesco.

No one is owed a living.

I proposed a doom scenarion. Far fetched maybe, but that was my proposal. The question/s are what jobs are safe enough for the UK economy to avoid that doom scenario.

Without maintaing lifestyles my doom scenario kicks in.
Just how many doctors, lawyers and teachers can the UK sustain?
Doesnt help the UK if they go abroad and they still have to compete with the people who took their job in the first place.
What new business meets the criteria stated in the first place?
The world only needs so many shelf stackers too.

[The Lone Gunman]

Indeed.

Imagine the same argument applied to the miners 20 years ago ...

No intelligent argument from you then? Thought not.

Your example is a fine one. The miners and other manufacturers were told to retrain into the service industries.

I have simply asked you to tell me what the service industry peeps should retrain into.
You do not seem to have an answer so, instead of my doom scenario, what will be the outcome if the trend for on and off shoring continues?
In what industries will all the displaced workers work?
How will the UK afford to live?