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Perm manager 60k salary or Contracting £400/day

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    #21
    Originally posted by contractor79 View Post
    well I know that more money would come in right now from doing the contract but I'm hoping that those who are older and wiser than me can offer some insight about the future prospects from taking those two different routes
    Take the contract but put the perm role on the cv. Sorted both ways.
    The Mods stole my post count!

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      #22
      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
      If you want to enjoy life, earn a good living and still have someone to talk to in the pub, stick to contracting.
      WHS
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        #23
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        It depends on what you want. If you just want to get rich and have no friends, go and get an MBA from some overrated business school and bulltulip, backstab and arselick your way to the top of an investment bank or some boring multinational insultancy business.

        If you want to enjoy life, earn a good living and still have someone to talk to in the pub, stick to contracting.
        wonderful post

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          #24
          perm job would be massive stress, politics, bitchiness etc. wouldn't it?
          would feel like I would be playing a bitchy game all the time instead of actually doing work

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            #25
            Originally posted by Pickle2 View Post
            That would be the hyphotetical case of somebody moving to England and changing the rate at the end of the year with the current exchange rate.

            Let roll the overall time in 2 phases, year 0 and 1.

            Year 0: Contracting in Holland for 600 euros a day (at that time about 400 pounds, at year 1 worth about 600 pounds)

            Year 1: Contracting in UK for 400 pounds a day (at year 0 they would be worth 600 euros but at year one they are worth 400 euros)

            If you consider the exchange rate of year 1 your rate would drop from 600 to 400 but in reality your rate was actually the same if you accepted the rate conversion before the big drop.
            I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

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              #26
              Yup exactly if you've been earning Euro's say 600 a day over the last 10 years and you didn't change anything into £ basically you've had a retrospective pay rise of around 30%.

              not bad huh

              I'm alright Jack

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                #27
                Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
                A candidate for a 60k/70k a year job at 30 and YOU ask US what to do. Wow, they really get value for money these days! I'd expect someone to think for themself on that money!
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                  It depends on what you want. If you just want to get rich and have no friends, go and get an MBA from some overrated business school and bulltulip, backstab and arselick your way to the top of an investment bank or some boring multinational insultancy business.

                  If you want to enjoy life, earn a good living and still have someone to talk to in the pub, stick to contracting.
                  Top post! and not just because my ex-wife has an MBA........

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by chicane View Post
                    I reckon there are two types of permie folk on over 50k - those with technical knowledge, and those with wooly management/director roles - the nature of which you often can't quite tie down.

                    From what I've seen, the members of the former group tend to work long hours and are constantly stressed up to their eyeballs, and the latter group tend to work normal hours and attend pointless meetings where they get to eat free biscuits and sandwiches.

                    OP, It's probably wise to establish which of those categories this 60k role fits into before you go any further.
                    Not true - "proper" Project and Programme Managers are paid more than £50K plus bonus and benefits and car allowance - and I would not categorise them as being in wooly roles - they are often in the most difficult roles going.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MPwannadecentincome View Post
                      Not true - "proper" Project and Programme Managers are paid more than £50K plus bonus and benefits and car allowance - and I would not categorise them as being in wooly roles - they are often in the most difficult roles going.
                      WHS++;

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