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Would you drive an electric car ?
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Originally posted by Mustang View PostWHS
Bottom line for me is: yes, I will buy one when they can compete with current cars in terms of looks, performance, price, cost of "fuel", time between "fill ups" and "fill up" time. The Chevy Volt is getting closer to this.
At the moment they cant but I am sure one day they will. I certainly wont be forced into buying one by the Government. Who wants to live in a country where the Government dictate that to you - maybe George Orwell had it right.......!!
BTW, anyone thought about how this electicity to charge them is being produced.........!!
With the long term trend of ever increasing costs there will come a point when you will refuse to pay HMG any more for the pleasure of driving a fossil fuel car and you will have to give in, they say that is the intention but they will only tax something else to make up for the massive shortfall in revenue.Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave JohnsonComment
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Originally posted by BrianSnail View PostYes, when...
• They can do 100mph
• go 350 miles before recharging the batteries
• and it takes only 2 minutes to recharge the batteries
• and they don't look like they've been taken from Buck Rogers....
...actually, driving a Buck Rogers type car would be kinda cool....Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.
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Originally posted by gingerjedi View PostWe'll see about that
there will come a point when you will refuse to pay HMG any more for the pleasure of driving a fossil fuel carComment
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I thought the Honda Clarity was the way forward....
http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/
Certainly a better bet than the golf carts currently being developed.
For my daily grind, I'd have to recharge it at home overnight, then recharge it again at work!'elf and safety guruComment
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Besides the fact that they take hours to recharge, where is all this extra electricity going to come from? I thought we were going to struggle to meet our current electricity demands given the age and state of our power stations - how will they cope if everybody starts using these new electric invalid cars?Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.
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TopGear did a piece on electric cars and were pretty impressed by one model, but you can't get away from the batteries' weight and charge-time really.
They were far more interested in fuel-cell technology which generates electricity from fuel in your tank without burning it. Hydrogen is the main candidate, you react hydrogen with oxygen to generate electricity and water vapour.
On the other hand, fuel-cells have been "just around the corner" for a decade if not more, I'm slightly skeptical they may fall in the same category as fusion power stations. But from my viewpoint as a scientist, it's a very interesting technology.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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One of wife's friends has one for dropping kids off at school, local shops etc. They also have a big Audi & a Land Rover.
I would definitely have one as a run-around but they aren't ready to be used as an only car yet.
I'd quite like a go in a Tesla - they look promising..."See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."Comment
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To be realistic, until a Back to the Future Mr Fusion device design exists, fuel cell technology is the only way forwards as an alternative to internal combustion.
The refuel time is minutes instead of hours, hydrogen is abundant and of course not lost in the combustion, power stations already have abundant water supplies and it wouldn't take much doing to construct electrolysis plants at power stations to reduce the losses from transmission. It's also possible to produce hydrogen via algae bioreactors although that technology is in its infancy.
Electric cars which are powered by rechargabe batteries and domestic electricity simply can't fill the niche occupied by the internal combustion engine due to the range and refueling issues we all know about.Comment
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Fuel Cell
BMW are currently developing a Mini running with a fuel cell.
Performance is comparable to a standard Mini, and range is also pretty impressive. Sorry, no Linky, I read this in a motoring magazine at my doctor's surgery
Down-sides are that the fuel cell has a quite limited lifetime and costs almost twice as much as the car itself. Also there are (so the report read) currently only four places in Germany where you can refuel your cell (one being Linde Gas in Munich). Unfortunately, the other places are further away than the range of the car would allow you to travel!
Apart from that, there was a documentary I remember seeing on Discovery, Nat Geo or some such where scientists were not impressed with the electric car technology as you actually burn more fuel chaarging the damn battery than you would need to get the car the same distance on a single charge, i.e. negative entropy.
I too would only consider a Hydrogen vehicle, but only when the infrastructure is suitable to allow longer journeys, i.e. more refuelling stations.Comment
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