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Clause to search me and my car ?

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    #21
    Depends how desperate I was for a contract. Under normal circumstances I'd do as Cojak suggests, i.e. cross out the clause, sign and send.

    I've seen contracts before where clientco wanted the right to monitor & record business and private telecommunications including email. That was for a top law firm.

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      #22
      Originally posted by unixman View Post
      I am assured by the agent that they have loads of happy contractors on the same terms,
      Funny how agencies ALWAYS say things like

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        #23
        Originally posted by realityhack View Post
        I've seen contracts before where clientco wanted the right to monitor & record business and private telecommunications including email.
        HMG has this right now!
        Cats are evil.

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          #24
          I worked on an APACS accredited site where the same clause was applied to all staff, suppliers and visitors. Again, it was rarely used (and I personally was never searched), but in order to retain the accreditation anyone going on site had to agree to these conditions.

          Depends how desperate you are for a contract but based upon the search clause I wouldn't worry about it.

          The other 'deliverables' and 'weekly review' clauses sound like more of a concern. I'd suggest that these are likely to impact your IR35 status as could easily be interepreted as direction and control.
          Proud owner of +5 Xeno Geek Points

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            #25
            Dont be such a DQ. They just want to be able to check your bag on the way out to make sure you are not pinching kit from the site. Fairly common practice.

            In reality, the blokes on the door rarely (if ever) stop you.
            The Mods stole my post count!

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              #26
              Why the big hoo-ha? If you are not going there with the intention of nicking stuff then why be bothered by it?

              Unless it is an iPod factory or something and you ARE going there with the intention of nicking stuff then fair enough, cross it out.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Durbs View Post
                Why the big hoo-ha? If you are not going there with the intention of nicking stuff then why be bothered by it?
                Wonderful. The "if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear" fallacy at its best.

                Mind if I search you?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by unixman View Post
                  It's not the possibility of being searched that bothers me so much, I just don't want to walk around the office knowing they have the right, it would be intimidating. I mean, even the Police can't search you/your car without a reason and lots of paperwork.
                  You think so?

                  Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000 allows police officers to perform random searches. No grounds for suspicion are required.
                  Last edited by expat; 8 April 2009, 16:12.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by expat View Post
                    Wonderful. The "if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear" fallacy at its best.
                    Load of balls.

                    I take it you never get on a plane then? A company has the right to protect its property and i'd make the assumption as they've chosen to include that clause then they have had issues in the past.

                    It seems strange that people immediatly read something 'sinister' into a simple clause to cover themselves if they suspect you've filled your pockets or boot with iPhones.
                    Last edited by Durbs; 8 April 2009, 16:16.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Durbs View Post
                      Load of balls.

                      I take it you never get on a plane then? A company has the right to protect its property and i'd make the assumption as they've chosen to include that clause then they have had issues in the past.

                      It seems strange that people immediatly read something 'sinister' into a simple clause to cover themselves if they suspect you've filled your pockets or boot with iPhones.
                      I don't have any issue with the company doing so, and I never suggested, or reasonably gave any impression, that I did.

                      I do have a problem with any simplistic suggestion that if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
                      Not the same thing.

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