Question Time Last Night

[Cyberman]

Honesty in Politics now there is an Oxy-Moron (as opposed to a CyberMoron)

The sinking of the Belgrano in May 1982 remains one of the most controversial aspects of the Falklands conflict: more than 300 members of the crew died when the submarine Conqueror torpedoed it.

Margaret Thatcher, then Prime Minister, defended the decision to sink the vessel and dismissed claims that it was outside and heading away from a 200-mile exclusion zone which had been imposed around the Falklands by the British.

There was a war on and they started it. Get over it !! I didn't see the Argies complaining to their junta about the attempted sinking of our ships with exocets and the burning of our brave troops. You are a typically politically correct buffoon, Sourpuss.

[Drewster]

Honesty in Politics now there is an Oxy-Moron (as opposed to a CyberMoron)

The sinking of the Belgrano in May 1982 remains one of the most controversial aspects of the Falklands conflict: more than 300 members of the crew died when the submarine Conqueror torpedoed it.

Margaret Thatcher, then Prime Minister, defended the decision to sink the vessel and dismissed claims that it was outside and heading away from a 200-mile exclusion zone which had been imposed around the Falklands by the British.

I agree about the oxy-moron

However the "Rules of Engagement" never said "We won't shoot them if they don't come within 200 miles"......

They were killing "Our Guys". The Belgrano had the potential to attack us.
"We" stopped it!

I am not "sure" we were/are particularly justified in claiming the Falklands as "ours" or that we should have spent millions sending a Task Force or even that "war" is justified - but given that those decisions had been made "shooting" the Belgrano was "right"

[Cyberman]

I agree about the oxy-moron


I am not "sure" we were/are particularly justified in claiming the Falklands as "ours" or that we should have spent millions sending a Task Force or even that "war" is justified - but given that those decisions had been made "shooting" the Belgrano was "right"

The fact of whether the Falklands was ours or not was immaterial. The citizens on the Falklands were British and deserved our support. If you let a country just march in and take your territory, don't be surprised when another country takes liberties, such as Spain over Gibraltar.

[Cyberman]

I agree about the oxy-moron

I don't agree, because not all politicians are 'feathering their nests'. There are politicians with principles such as Robin Cook, Tony Benn, Michael Heseltine, Margaret Thatcher, William Hague, Ken Clarke etc.

Unfortunately for the current HMG, most of the principled variety tend to be on the Tory side. Blair, Brown, Mandelson, Blunkett, Jowell, Harman, Straw, and Jackie Smith to name just a few, have all been caught out for being somewhat less than honest. Then of course we had Robert Maxwell, a couple of decades ago !!

The Tories have had a few, but nothing like Labour, with names such as Archer and Parkinson springing to mind.

[Drewster]

I don't have a mind.

I takes liberties

If you quote me please try not to misrepresent me quite so blatently!

I think we were (originally) in semi-agreement

[TheBigD]

The Tories have had a few, but nothing like Labour, with names such as Archer and Parkinson springing to mind.

And...

Graham Riddick
David Tredinnick
Neil Hamilton
Jonathan Aitken
Derick Conway
David Mellor

...not trying to say the Tory's are any worse than labour for these sort of Shenanigans, but you do seem to look at things with Blue tinted spectacles!

[Cyberman]

And...

Graham Riddick
David Tredinnick
Neil Hamilton
Jonathan Aitken
Derick Conway

...not trying to say the Tory's are any worse than labour for these sort of Shenanigans, but you do seem to look at things with Blue tinted spectacles!

I could reel off a lot more from HMG, and don't forget the recent Lords debacle of cash for changes to the Law.
Some of the scum have even returned to cabinet, such as Mandelson and Blunkett. The Labour front bench really are a lowly bunch, and if it starts there, you can quite safely bet that duplicity runs throughout their ranks.

Why are they so against public scrutiny of expenses I wonder!!

[BoredBloke]

I could reel off a lot more from HMG, and don't forget the recent Lords debacle of cash for changes to the Law.
Some of the scum have even returned to cabinet, such as Mandelson and Blunkett. The Labour front bench really are a lowly bunch, and if it starts there, you can quite safely bet that duplicity runs throughout their ranks.

Why are they so against public scrutiny of expenses I wonder!!

Add to that Hain and his dodgy donations and Smith with her 2nd home expenses being spent on her 1st home bills. The difference between a lot of the Tory sleaze merchants and this lot are that in a number of cases the Tory ones were relatively unknown back benchers rather than cabinet ministers and when found out they had a tendancy to step down.

[Bagpuss]

I don't know, wasn't married Major shagging married Currie while Prime minister, and telling us all we should get back to moralistic family basics?

If you believe there is much honesty on either side, you are as daft as cyber Tory looks.

[Doggy Styles]

I don't know, wasn't married Major shagging married Currie while Prime minister, and telling us all we should get back to moralistic family basics?

How is that feathering his own nest?

Anyway, he deserved a peerage for that.