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Motorway Queue Jumping

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    #31
    Where the f*** do you shop?

    Originally posted by blacjac View Post
    Bollocks.

    Show me one shop that has 3 'lanes' that merge into 2 and I'll show you 3 lines of people merging into 2.

    Interesting analogy. So that happens a lot where you shop then does it? One of the tills at the supermarket closes, so numpties who've just finished grabbinging their pot noodles, baked beans and special brew run at full speed with their trolleys to barge in at the front of the queue for the one functioning checkout?

    We're not talking about 3 lanes of traffic merging into 2 in a civilised manner, we're talking about people barging into the head of a queue, often in totally the wrong lane, risking the lives and wasting the time of everyone else who's had the sense to wait!

    .....and don't get me started on people who do 450 degrees at the roundabouts at the end of slip roads so they can dodge the queue and turn left ....

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      #32
      Originally posted by landl View Post
      .....and don't get me started on people who do 450 degrees at the roundabouts at the end of slip roads so they can dodge the queue and turn left ....
      I thought I was the only person who did that?

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        #33
        We had the very same discussion here a few years ago and there weren't many of us arguing that ordered "zipping" into a single lane before the queue started made the traffic flow through it much faster, instead of selfish stupid drivers trying to cut in at the last moment. As I recall, the consensus then was that it makes no difference.
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          #34
          Originally posted by landl View Post
          Interesting analogy. So that happens a lot where you shop then does it? One of the tills at the supermarket closes, so numpties who've just finished grabbinging their pot noodles, baked beans and special brew run at full speed with their trolleys to barge in at the front of the queue for the one functioning checkout?
          That's how it works in Germany.

          Flipping annoying it is too!

          tim

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            #35
            Originally posted by TonyEnglish View Post
            I tend to get in the lane early so that I don't miss my exit. I can't see the point of trying to barge in at the last minute, possibly causing a crash and risk missing the junction.

            In cases where 2 lanes merge into 1 I'll usually go to the end of it. I can't see the point of everybody sitting in 2 lanes of stationary traffic when there is still half a mile of unused 3rd lane next to them.
            Originally posted by landl View Post
            Originally posted by TonyEnglish View Post
            I tend to get in the lane early so that I don't miss my exit. I can't see the point of trying to barge in at the last minute, possibly causing a crash and risk missing the junction.

            In cases where 2 lanes merge into 1 I'll usually go to the end of it. I can't see the point of everybody sitting in 2 lanes of stationary traffic when there is still half a mile of unused 3rd lane next to them.
            It's BECAUSE people barge to the front of the queue by using the third lane that the other two lanes are stationary! In any other scenario, this would just be pushing in! Would you do it in a shop or when you're waiting to buy a ticket somewhere? Then why do it in a car? I see the same thing everyday and am almost at the point of "if you can't beat them, join them".

            Dozens of cars every morning taking the wrong lane at a roundabout and smugly barging in at the last second. They're all thinking "gosh, aren't we clever, why are these numpties waiting in a queue", and we're all thinking you're a prize nugget!!!

            There endeth the rant.
            Originally posted by blacjac View Post
            Bollocks.

            Show me one shop that has 3 'lanes' that merge into 2 and I'll show you 3 lines of people merging into 2.
            Originally posted by landl View Post
            Interesting analogy. So that happens a lot where you shop then does it? One of the tills at the supermarket closes, so numpties who've just finished grabbinging their pot noodles, baked beans and special brew run at full speed with their trolleys to barge in at the front of the queue for the one functioning checkout?

            We're not talking about 3 lanes of traffic merging into 2 in a civilised manner, we're talking about people barging into the head of a queue, often in totally the wrong lane, risking the lives and wasting the time of everyone else who's had the sense to wait!

            .....and don't get me started on people who do 450 degrees at the roundabouts at the end of slip roads so they can dodge the queue and turn left ....

            Sorry, I seem to have had to quote the above becuase you are too stupid to remember what you posted.

            BTW it was your analogy, not mine....
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              #36
              It's strange but intriguing to see how people get so het up about anything to do with driving. When witnessing shoddy behaviour on the road I always assumed it was due to the exigencies of the situation provoking people into doing things that they would not do in a calmer frame of mind. This thread and others on similar concerns make it clear that there are many people who not only drive badly, but can also rationalise their bad driving to the degree that they will assert that their anti-social attitudes are, in fact, sensible and justifiable.

              I try to avoid getting het up when on the road. The Highway Code recommends this, and I've found that following the Highway Code is the safest way to drive. After all, we taxpayers have paid experts to create this advice for us. To ignore it would not only be stupid (in that the experts have presumably analysed the possible situations and created appropriate advice from the position of knowing more than you) but also foolhardy (in that if you think you know better than the experts and it turns out you are wrong, you either die or kill somebody else).

              Unfortunately the bozos who put the Highway Code on the web have done an appallingly bad job of it, so it's impossible to construct a link to the relevant rule - one can only link to a page. (Fail on the Information Superhighway )

              Still, here are the parts that seem relevant to the broader tone of this discussion if you scroll down to Rule 147. I'll also quote what I think are the relevant bits, with my own sanctimonious highlighting:


              You should
              • try to be understanding if other road users cause problems; they may be inexperienced or not know the area well
              • be patient; remember that anyone can make a mistake
              • not allow yourself to become agitated or involved if someone is behaving badly on the road. This will only make the situation worse.



              HTH, YMMV, HAND
              Last edited by NickFitz; 15 February 2009, 05:50. Reason: Anyone can make a mistake...

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                #37
                It may also be worthy of note that amongst the self-confessed queue-jumpers are three people who have chosen to present themselves to the World of CUK under the names "Money Money Money", "NotAllThere" and "Recruitment Agent".

                The first implies an obsession with self-indulgence, the second implies pride in a lack of awareness, and the third...

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