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ALL Conservatives and Lib Dems to vote against FoI - Expenses

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    #31
    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    If that's true then fair enough. As I say, I'm not overly bothered as long as someone is keeping an independent eye on them. I don't agree with the likes of that tory (Conway?) who took the p1ss by paying a big salary to his son for doing nothing.
    Unfortunately, the "Independent" eye they are using is the NAO - sadly not above a bit of junketing themselves - Google Sir John Bourn (the former boss) for more details.

    If their employer (us) is paying for second homes expenses, then why can't MPs adhere to the same tax and benefits rules as we all have to?

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      #32
      Originally posted by bogeyman View Post


      Now the fun begins !!

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        #33
        Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
        Cameron has already sacked MPs for expenses fiddles in the past few months. Labour have not and that says it all, even though one was paying a babysitter a salary as an assistant when it has been proven that she did no work for that MP.
        Cameron wants full disclosure and said that months ago, so your point is illogical as usual Expat.
        Who is the Labour MP - linky?

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          #34
          Nearly all MP expenses, those of a capital purchase nature, are Benefit in kind as they would benefit from said item once they have left office. One could argue you could depreciate the capital asset over 3-5 years so it's book value is zero, but it's a stretch.

          MP's should only be allowed to RENT a second home in London, and then, ONLY if they live further than 1.5 hour's journey outside Westminster.

          They should ONLY be allowed to rent FURNISHED accomodation.

          They should have NO ALLOWANCE for items for their constituency home as this is there day to day home and it should not be subject to expenses.

          Granted they should have a Subsistence allowance of £25 a day when they are sitting in parliament, and their Travel on days in Westminster can be expenses. NO first class travel, if they wish to travel 1st class, they should only be able to expense the cost of an economy and they should fund the rest out of their taxed income.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Solidec View Post
            Nearly all MP expenses, those of a capital purchase nature, are Benefit in kind as they would benefit from said item once they have left office. One could argue you could depreciate the capital asset over 3-5 years so it's book value is zero, but it's a stretch.

            MP's should only be allowed to RENT a second home in London, and then, ONLY if they live further than 1.5 hour's journey outside Westminster.

            They should ONLY be allowed to rent FURNISHED accomodation.

            They should have NO ALLOWANCE for items for their constituency home as this is there day to day home and it should not be subject to expenses.

            Granted they should have a Subsistence allowance of £25 a day when they are sitting in parliament, and their Travel on days in Westminster can be expenses. NO first class travel, if they wish to travel 1st class, they should only be able to expense the cost of an economy and they should fund the rest out of their taxed income.
            Wot, you mean treat them like the rest of us?
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #36
              Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
              Wot, you mean treat them like the rest of us?
              I wish, we desperately need a body to hold MP's to account, and ensure their conduct is in the best interests of the people, and that it is above board. They simpyl CANNOT and SHOULD NOT regulate and investigate their own actions and judgements.

              Reality is there is nothing more than bad press as a consequence, maybe a few marginal seat holders will be worried about their ability to hold their seat.

              Problem is, the general British public are not only stupid, they also have a shyte memory, give it a month and this will be forgotten by joe and jane public.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
                Who is the Labour MP - linky?

                Caroline Spelman MP . My apologies there because she is a Tory, but I still think she should have been sacked.

                http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7476527.stm


                The Tories did sack an MP for paying a salary to his son. Who have Labour sacked ?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Solidec View Post
                  I wish, we desperately need a body to hold MP's to account, and ensure their conduct is in the best interests of the people, and that it is above board. They simpyl CANNOT and SHOULD NOT regulate and investigate their own actions and judgements.

                  Reality is there is nothing more than bad press as a consequence, maybe a few marginal seat holders will be worried about their ability to hold their seat.

                  Problem is, the general British public are not only stupid, they also have a shyte memory, give it a month and this will be forgotten by joe and jane public.
                  Wayne and Waynetta
                  And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                    Wot, you mean treat them like the rest of us?
                    I don't think they'd like that!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
                      The Tories did sack an MP for paying a salary to his son.
                      Would that be Derek (?) Conway? A self-important, useless little sh1t if ever there was one. Allegedly.

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