How Much To Go Perm?

[d000hg]

I would take a permie job if any existed outside of the dilbert universe. I have never ever seen or heard of any company where a dilbert existence is not absolutely guaranteed.

At least when contracting I can laugh at it whilst making good money, and I know it's not forever.

Given the choice of unemployment or dilbert employment, I'll take unemployment.

I never saw a Dilbert environment despite working in Banking and government-related projects. I've only ever worked for dedicated software companies though, and the largest had maybe 150 coders. Maybe huge companies get worse, or companies needing software but it's not their main area are worse, or maybe I was just lucky.

[Francko]

I never saw a Dilbert environment despite working in Banking and government-related projects. I've only ever worked for dedicated software companies though, and the largest had maybe 150 coders. Maybe huge companies get worse, or companies needing software but it's not their main area are worse, or maybe I was just lucky.

I worked quite in many offices and areas and I have seen good and bad environments and also contractors who were more into politics and permie habbits than many other permies in other places. What strikes me is the need for feeling the belong to a different category. We don't. We all make a choice for money and lifestyle, in many cases a permie offer is a better than a contract one. I don't see why a stigma should be attached to those who make longer term calculation and don't consider anything beyond their monthly bank balance. How many contractors do invoice for less than 100k a year? How many permies do earn almost or more than 100k a year? Sure with a bit more taxes but at least you are not hassled by the tax office every now and then. How many contractors can really go and take holidays whenever they feel? I know many permies who can do that. This is not to say that one is better than the other. Give me a choice and after my calculation I'll tell you what's best for me. All the other considerations are just bulltuliping or ego-inflating techniques.

So in answer to your original question.... it depends. You are asking something like how many apples would you get?... you should have asked how many apples would you be offered to change them for a certain number of pears...

[bodnobal]

Once a contractor always a contractor.

In hard times fall back on rainy day money, that is for those of you that put some rainy day money away.

And let's face it employers don't employ ex-contractors anyway, once the economy pick up, where did he/she go...

[bobhope]

It doesn't really matter how much does it? As soon as the market turns up again, you'd be out of there surely?