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Cuba, have we really done any better than them?

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    #41
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    You got to be joking - Cuban missile crisis could have turned this world into burned out planet, and you accuse Kennedy of terrorist towards some small state that was playing off two superpowers in a very dangerous game?

    And so what? USSR funded plenty of wars in Latin America, including supporting Cuba - same happened in Asia. UK did plenty of dirty things when Empire was strong too, the only reason it could not effectively oppose USSR after WW2 was because it was so weak so someone else had to do it - humans should be grateful that USA did what was necessary to win (without nuclear war), if they were Nazi Germany they'd just partition the world and UK and whole Europe in this case would have been under Soviet rule.

    If the price for avoiding that was countering Soviet influence via terrorism in Cuba, Nicaragua then so be it - I'd rather take that than Soviet control: unlike you I know what it is, where as you got no clue which is why you should dedicate your time to learning horrors of Soviet regime before saying one bad word against USAs actions to counter it.
    Sorry for digging this up - I have just got back to work and have gone through all my emails.

    So first Kennedy. He sanctioned Operation Mongoose and the Bay of Pigs. So yes I am correct in accusing him of terrorism. Next he was the one who moved missiles into Turkey so it was Kennedy that started the 'dangerous game'. Feel free to provide other historical reasons for the Cuban Missile Crisis if you disagree or is your argument that Cuba knocked on Russias door one day and just asked for a few nuclear missiles and Russia thought why not ?

    Secondly you ask so what ? Well I personally dont agree with you that supplying arms to Turkey, Indonesia and Iraq to commit genocide is a good thing. I also don't think that destabilising countries to install a dictator is very wise (the CIA funded Noriegas rise to power and then got rid of him, Iran is another example .... and Saddam Hussein... and the Taleban).

    Next you bring in other countries who have done the same. Here I agree with you - they were never part of my argument, but now you mention them then yes, I could be critical of them aswell, but this thread is about Cuba and the US is the most relevant.

    Finally you bring in the USSR again. I am aware of the atrocities of the USSR regime and have studied it as you suggest. However my argument is not about the USSR, it is about the US and 'the Wests' foreign policy with respect to Cuba. If you wish I could be critical of the USSR aswell - a different thread perhaps ?

    The great thing about 'the West', is that you are allowed to be critical of its foreign policy. Give it a go, your taxes pay for it and it is done in your name after all..... there must be something you don't agree with surely or are we whiter than white ? Do you believe we invaded Iraq over WMD's for example, are you happy we funded Saddam for years and sold him weapons including chemical weapons to use against the Kurds, don't you think its strange we didn't remove him during the first Gulf War (another thread maybe).

    ..... although I see you wont be back for a while ... oh well...
    Last edited by M_B; 5 January 2009, 14:41.

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