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Calls for 'speed-limiting' cars

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    #21
    As usual, it's being touted as a voluntary option, however, that's the usual tactic to appease the libertarians, until last minute changes make it compulsory.

    That said, I don't have a problem with this legislation for a number of reasons.

    Prevention from speeding will reduce the number of serious accidents on the roads, and increase survivability rates.

    With a de-emphasis on speed, the manufacturers will have to refocus their vehicle design on comfort, safety, efficiency.

    With the roads so congested these days, driving is not the pleasure it once was, and the days of taking to the wheel and zooming along to your heart's content are long over.

    We need to maximise the efficiency of travel, and if that means all vehicles being essentially controlled by a global navigation and control system, I don't think it's a small price to pay. Call it an "evolution of travel" if you will.

    Also, if it does start as voluntary, then I'd expect the insurers to offer suitable discounts for insurance, and to rack up the premiums on non-limited vehicles accordingly.

    Finally, you have nothing to worry about from speeding fines, since by virtue you should always be within the speed limit for the area you are in.

    The only losers will be the high performance car makers, but they need to realise that by producing vehicles which are capaple of exceeding the speed limit, they are party to the problem.
    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

    C.S. Lewis

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      #22
      Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
      I already have a speed limiting device.

      It's called a Renault
      Me too - Mine's called London.
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        #23
        Originally posted by Board Game Geek View Post
        Prevention from speeding will reduce the number of serious accidents on the roads, and increase survivability rates...
        But as Clarkson & co never tire of pointing out, if a car can't go above 70 MPH either by power or design then its designers will ease off on brake quality.

        A powerful car needs powerful brakes, and these probably save more accidents (or their worst effects) than high speeds cause.

        But you're dead right about introducing this as voluntary, and it soon morphing into something compulsory. Those EU functionaries must think the public are completely thick.
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          #24
          Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
          A powerful car needs powerful brakes, and these probably save more accidents (or their worst effects) than high speeds cause.
          Is it a good idea to have some cars that can stop in much shorter distance, imagine you are on motorway and keep normal distance between you and car in front of you and then that car starts braking and since it got better brakes your normal distance won't be enough and you'd get into back of it - dangerous IMO.

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            #25
            Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
            But as Clarkson & co never tire of pointing out, if a car can't go above 70 MPH either by power or design then its designers will ease off on brake quality.
            That is a bit like saying if we never had guns then we would not have the benefit of gun laws.

            Anyway the guy is a choob, he used to belt on about 2 joggers produced more CO2 that a VW Golf which was total mince, or the time he handed out his bank details in the paper to prove the was no such thing as ID theft.

            Guy talks pish for a living.

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              #26
              On TopGear recently didn't they say Japan already has this system, and it is sophisticated to detect when you drive onto a race track and disengage the limiter?
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                #27
                80mph speed limiter

                Why not a mechanical speed limiter that cuts in at 80mph. Forcing a maximum speed on motorways etc and a good chance the police can catch the joy riders. Technology is established and proven.

                GPS based limiters sound far too complicated.

                Speed is only really a major cause in a small number of accidents but it keeps the fines rolling in.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by vetran View Post
                  GPS based limiters sound far too complicated.
                  Not really. The GPS end is well proven with all the zillions of sat nav devices out there, and speed limiters are compulsary in Japan (not to mention on lorries). In fact my S2000 is limited to 180mph.

                  If anything, it makes more sense to use technology to enforce 30mph or 40mph limits, and not anywhere else. Motorways are the safest roads by far, despite the high speed, and when you hear of motorway deaths they're nearly always down to HGV drivers who are already restricted to 56.
                  Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                    when you hear of motorway deaths they're nearly always down to HGV drivers who are already restricted to 56.
                    And pissed up footballers

                    I'm all for speed limiters on younger drivers, perhaps the insurance companies could pressure the under 25's to use them in return for cheaper car insurance.

                    BMW's should have them fitted as standard and be electrified to prevent tampering

                    (Now i sound like a right old twat)
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                      #30
                      Given that cars are getting more powerful, more efficiënt, less polluting and safer all the time, why not redesign major roads and driver education to allow for higher speeds?

                      Why do we have to keep stepping backwards in the name of safety?
                      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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