Israel

[Liability]

Your dismissal of religion shows how little you have to offer in the debate. The whole issue is about religion, and yet you don't want to engage in the subject in a grown up way. Why on Earth do you think your opinions have any value? You have no concept of the driving forces behind the conflict, and trivialise religion as an irrelevancy.

Lottery numbers? Never mind. Why don't you go and watch CBeebies now then you won't have to think.

It is about Religion is it? So Hamas and Iran and all think its about Religion? Please. Get with reality. Religion is merely a front for this violence. It is used as a tool [ironic name in this context] to manipulate those masses which they control. If you really think this is all about Islam and Jewish and God - you really have no clue on this entire conflict. Look at Saudi - there REALLY religious are they? Look at UAE - their really religious are they?

Religion is a tool used to control people. If you dont know this - you probably dont have the capability to understand the conflict. Our history has taught us that to control masses we need something intangible that they can beleive in. The human mind feeds of this and so Religion is used as a way to get people to do things they wouldnt logically do. Do I REALLY need to provide examples of this being factual to you?

Again, regligion is for the weak mind who needs to be told how to inherently be "good" and to lead a better life. Yet this human trait comes from within however gets ignored and brainwashed. Christiantiy, Islam and Judasim are prime examples of this being utilised. If we didnt have religion we wouldnt have conflict on the scale we have.

If you have a handful of people at the top using religion and pride and god as a basis to cause mayhem - we then let the gullible think this is all about religion.

[deano]

And you have no answer except to bleat how bad it all is and it wouldn't be this bad if it wasn't for religion.

Where are your answers?

You haven't got any because that would then put you on the side of the Jews or the Muslims. And because that is anathema to you you prefer to sit above it on some moral high-ground and judge.

It must be terrible to be so high-minded and unable to deal with reality.

[Liability]

And you have no answer except to bleat how bad it all is and it wouldn't be this bad if it wasn't for religion.

Where are your answers?

You haven't got any because that would then put you on the side of the Jews or the Muslims. And because that is anathema to you you prefer to sit above it on some moral high-ground and judge.

It must be terrible to be so high-minded and unable to deal with reality.

Lol - you seem to have a tendency to flip flop from one to the other when your fundamental points get blown out of the water?

Religion is the cause of this entire issue - but in terms of feeding it over the past 20 odd years - it is used as a tool for the gullible.

Give back the land to the Palestinians, get Israel to follow International Law, Stop Mossad manipulating the entire region, Kick USA out as they have there own agenda, and let people live their lives. How difficult is that? Not very? Yet will it happen? No. As there confliect is part of Global Politics. Something people dont understand and think its about muslims and jews - yawn.

[deano]

Lol - you seem to have a tendency to flip flop from one to the other when your fundamental points get blown out of the water?

Religion is the cause of this entire issue - but in terms of feeding it over the past 20 odd years - it is used as a tool for the gullible.

Give back the land to the Palestinians, get Israel to follow International Law, Stop Mossad manipulating the entire region, Kick USA out as they have there own agenda, and let people live their lives. How difficult is that? Not very? Yet will it happen? No. As there confliect is part of Global Politics. Something people dont understand and think its about muslims and jews - yawn.

So we have you coming down on the pro-Muslim, anti-Israeli side. Finally you come down off the fence! Are you a Shia or Sunni supporter?

I don't think any of my points have been blown out of the water. At least not by you and not on this forum. I said you needed to pick a side before you could come up with an answer and you have just proved that by picking the Muslim side. Cheers.

And I note that you now acknowledge that religion is the central core issue. A little different from ...

that in itself shows how limited you are in your debating skills...but more importantly knowledge on the entire area and conflict. "by God!" bloody hell.

I'm also glad that you now acknowledge that my knowledge of the area and conflict is along the right lines.

Would that be one of those flip-flop thingies?

[Liability]

So we have you coming down on the pro-Muslim, anti-Israeli side. Finally you come down off the fence! Are you a Shia or Sunni supporter?

I dont support any side. As said - religion and all is for the mentally weak and inferior. I mean lets be honest you think "God" gave them the land. How can a person argue with such an absurd comment?

I don't think any of my points have been blown out of the water. At least not by you and not on this forum. I said you needed to pick a side before you could come up with an answer and you have just proved that by picking the Muslim side. Cheers.

Lol - this is the problem with the religious lot. You kind of think out of illogical logic. I dont have a side - I just look at factual information. However - its pretty clear that your blinded/clouded judgement and evil thoughts on any other relgion probably particularly Islam makes you believe and assume the stuff you do.

And I note that you now acknowledge that religion is the central core issue. A little different from ...

You are going to have to stick with me on this or itll get boring

- Religion is what started this
- Religion is now not the core of this

Is that clear? I figured BP'ing it may help?

[deano]

I dont support any side. As said - religion and all is for the mentally weak and inferior.

And I thought I was arrogant.

Of course it is your towering intellect and piercing clarity of thought that came up with...

- Religion is what started this
- Religion is now not the core of this

And you will no doubt be unable to see the non sequitur.

It isn't true of course. It's what you would really like it to be, that's all. Oh well.

The best bit of course was your admission of failure when unable to argue over "God gave them the land". No going away and looking up relevent quotes and the historical or archeological weakness of my claim (or not). Nothing except "I give in because I can't think of anything".

I despair of the education system in this country I really do. Over a decade of "Education, education , education", and it's people like you who are the future hope for the country.

[lilelvis2000]

I always thought the Brits started it all...

[Liability]

And I thought I was arrogant.

Of course it is your towering intellect and piercing clarity of thought that came up with...



And you will no doubt be unable to see the non sequitur.

It isn't true of course. It's what you would really like it to be, that's all. Oh well.

The best bit of course was your admission of failure when unable to argue over "God gave them the land". No going away and looking up relevent quotes and the historical or archeological weakness of my claim (or not). Nothing except "I give in because I can't think of anything".

I despair of the education system in this country I really do. Over a decade of "Education, education , education", and it's people like you who are the future hope for the country.

As said - you cant really debate with someone that beleives that "god" lol gave them the land. I mean please...what next? Jesus was real and Mary gave birth without been given some loving? Come on. Its almost as absurd as Mohammed being the messenger of god!?

When you come back to reality and have something better in substance let me know. You are almost as bad as the people you loath and dislike and yet you are all so similar - clouded by somewhat strange beliefs of god and religion.

[scooterscot]

How do you stop missiles and rockets getting fired into civilian population areas? Fire missiles and rockets into civilian population centers, kill 280 people.

Nice one Israel.

I say they should use a big net like they do in the local golf course to protect the passing motorists

[Purple Dalek]

I always thought the Brits started it all...

Yeah, when Hadrian and a whole boatload of brickies were busy over here building a wall, someone down the Nags Head said "Why not call that area Palistina."

And the rest, as they say, is history.