Charity beggars

[d000hg]

I smile and say I'm not interested but one guy wouldn't take no for an answer so I politely told him that I do make occasional donations to charity, but never to any charity that employs chuggers. He asked why and I said I want any money I give to go needy people not chuggers. He seemed really surprised but had to concede I had a point.

So you won't give to any charity that pays people to work for them? The simple fact is most people won't think to give to charity unless someone asks them. So from a charity's point of view, they got more donations this way, and 5s of irritation for you is less important (to them) than the cause they are championing.

[d000hg]

Why should you have to?

Why shouldn't you? Try and walk past and ignore them... if it works you didn't have to do anything, if they actually pester properly you then it's reasonable to tell them to pee off. But on a busy street it makes no sense for them to chase people anyway.

[minestrone]

It's not that they have employees, its that the employees hassle you in the street, in fact they regularly hassle me more than any beggar ever has and I see them being moved on all the time.

Anyway, it's nearly home time, I wonder if they will hassle me tonight, I have been hassled already today.

[DieScum]

I have a body language thing going on where they rarely stop me. I can pretty much do it at will. If I revert to normal posture then they are much more likely to stop me.

I really love it when you see someone with a can just standing nicely looking for donations without bothering people. Always make sure to give,

[Ruprect]

I have a body language thing going on where they rarely stop me. I can pretty much do it at will. If I revert to normal posture then they are much more likely to stop me.

I really love it when you see someone with a can just standing nicely looking for donations without bothering people. Always make sure to give,

nothing

[d000hg]

If the government introduced a mandatory charity tax on a sliding scale based on salary, they could divvy it up amongst all the charities and save people the bother of being bothered. Maybe something like:

% of income taken = 0.5*(income/10,000)^2

[where did my id go?]

the chuggers are not employed by the charity. They are employed by agencies. The agencies charge a fee for every sign up.
That fee can be a years worth of donations - and is charged even if the DD is later cancelled.

In fact the chuggers can COST the charity money.

Feckers!

[minestrone]

Phew, made it past them tonight without incident, there was a group of them talking amongst themselves and only one was actively engaged in hassling duty.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

So you won't give to any charity that pays people to work for them?

You obviously didn't bother to read my post since that's not what I said.

The simple fact is most people won't think to give to charity unless someone asks them.

That sounds more like your opinion than a "simple fact" but if you have the evidence (and I don't mean "everyone knows" or "a bloke in the pub said") that supports it, I'll accept it as fact.

So from a charity's point of view, they got more donations this way, and 5s of irritation for you is less important (to them) than the cause they are championing.

Fine - but I reserve the right not to give them any money to support their chugging. Do you actually know they get more donations this way?

If the government introduced a mandatory charity tax on a sliding scale based on salary, they could divvy it up amongst all the charities and save people the bother of being bothered. Maybe something like:

% of income taken = 0.5*(income/10,000)^2

Sounds like the current government - after all, it's not as if it's our money to choose what we do with is it?

[thunderlizard]

There's no need to be a git. Just say "sorry I'm not interested" without breaking stride, or walk past without answering if you must.

that's my technique too. You can be as polite and smiley as you like - just make sure you don't break stride.