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[BoredBloke]

And she didn't notice someone overtaking her up the inside and get prepared to brake if they did something silly? Lack of care and attention yet again. The reality is you'd actually rear end anyone who really did it too quick.

It is fairly simple, she can't drive and shouldn't be on the roads.

You lot seem so desperate for a bit of female attention you'd let her chop your arms off to get it.

Neither of us were there so we don't know. I've had vans pull out on me without indicating. I've not crashed, but that has been down to luck rather than any great driving skill on my part. Today on the motorway I went past a van weaving out of his lane, onto the hard shoulder etc because he was on his phone. So while I was overtaking him, had he weaved the other way, without any form of indication, would I have been a bad driver if I'd have hit him?

[Purple Dalek]

Neither of us were there so we don't know. I've had vans pull out on me without indicating. I've not crashed, but that has been down to luck rather than any great driving skill on my part. Today on the motorway I went past a van weaving out of his lane, onto the hard shoulder etc because he was on his phone. So while I was overtaking him, had he weaved the other way, without any form of indication, would I have been a bad driver if I'd have hit him?

Of course you would be, you plank!

You had noted the problem, and yet you still took a risk to overtake. Why not just ease off and wait for the problem to go away, rather than risk an accident by accelerating past it.

Blimey the risks some some people invent for themselves and then cry about it when they get caught out.

[BoredBloke]

Of course you would be, you plank!

You had noted the problem, and yet you still took a risk to overtake. Why not just ease off and wait for the problem to go away, rather than risk an accident by accelerating past it.

Blimey the risks some some people invent for themselves and then cry about it when they get caught out.

What if I hadn't noticed it or the weaving started as I passed. That is the point I was trying to make. When somebody does something entirly unexpected how are you supposed to prepare for that. Yes you can be observant and try to spot things but you have to place a certain amount of trust in the other motorists. Incidently I didn't pass as he was weaving and I have never had a crash. By the same token I have seen near misses and crashes where somebody has done something you simply would not have expected them to do.

In the case of this woman - I don't see it as being too unreasonable that the van driver simply didn't see her and pulled out from his lane, cutting her up and causing her to lose control of her car.

[Purple Dalek]

What if I hadn't noticed it or the weaving started as I passed. That is the point I was trying to make. When somebody does something entirly unexpected how are you supposed to prepare for that. Yes you can be observant and try to spot things but you have to place a certain amount of trust in the other motorists. Incidently I didn't pass as he was weaving and I have never had a crash. By the same token I have seen near misses and crashes where somebody has done something you simply would not have expected them to do.

In the case of this woman - I don't see it as being too unreasonable that the van driver simply didn't see her and pulled out from his lane, cutting her up and causing her to lose control of her car.

It stands to reason that if he'd started weaving as you were passing he'd have run into the side of you, not in front. If he did weave in front, you'd already be braking as you would have seen it happening in front of you.

When someone does something entirely unexpected you are required to keep control of your vehicle. Not lock the wheels up, grab a fistful of steering and end straddled across the central reservation.

I've decided from the evidence given she was putting her make-up on, and so wasn't concentrating. The rest of the story she made up.