This BNP list is worrying

[oracleslave]

I think you'll find that the list represents all sections of the uk social demographic.

If everything in the UK was hunky-dory, there'd be no voice for the BNP and no one would join 'em. I would much prefer it that way myself.

BBC Website Article on 1 in 4 people consider voting BNP

In the 2005 national elections, the BNP's share of the total vote was 0.74%.

Not a lot on its own, but that represents 192,850 votes.

To put that in to context, in the 2001 elections, they only garnered 47,129 votes.

So :

2001 : 47,129
2005 : 192,850
2009 : 350,000 ?

Something is attracting these members, and you cannot put it down to lack of intelligence in all cases.



Good point. Sometimes the truth is not very palatable...

Ok it was a remark made more in jest than anything else so I take your point.

However if you look at the geographic areas of where they have the greatest number of supporters I think these are in some of the lower income earning areas? The leap from lower income to standard of education is then easier to make I think.

[d000hg]

I'm not sure that sacking someone because they are a member of a political party is legal. It may be a breach of the Human Rights Act. It needs a test case to clarify.

I think it can be legal. It is certainly possible to apply for exemption from things like being an equal-opportunities employer... e.g a Christian organisation can get special dispensation in order to insist all employees support their principles.


Whether the police does this, who knows. It doesn't seem the same thing though to me.

[BrilloPad]

Ok it was a remark made more in jest than anything else so I take your point.

However if you look at the geographic areas of where they have the greatest number of supporters I think these are in some of the lower income earning areas? The leap from lower income to standard of education is then easier to make I think.

WHS

plus I would like to stop thick people from voting. starting with those who "read" the sun.

[shoes]

People are idiots.

There are those who can't see beyond the mob rule type mentally and want a collection of people to hate, paedos were flavour of the month for a bit, immigrants had their time too, now its BNP members. Any kind of presentation of a more sophisticated argument just cannot be absorbed, they're thick, and want to hate someone. Goodies versus baddies, init.

There are those who support what they have decided is the BNPs perspective and like hating 'dem pakk1s init'. Another group who just want a group to hate.

Then there are those that can consider the more sophisticated thoughts surrounding the right to hold an unpopular opinion, whether that opinion translates into actions affecting others, and if it doesn't aren't we on the verge of policing peoples thoughts, etc etc. These people are dumb for even bothering to try and reason with any of the others.

People eh, who'd 'ave 'em.

[xoggoth]

Watching question time last night, loved the usual trotting out of stuff about a "violent racist group". Racist is quite true (in the proper sense of the word as opposed to the usual misuse) but if you look at the realities of numerous incidents it is the left and so called anti racist groups that start almost all of the violence. The threats and a possible arson attack in connection with this list are entirely typical.

If it wasn't for the inverted racism against whites that masquerades as anti -racism the BNP would not have the support they do.

[EternalOptimist]

I hate all of the 'thought crimes' . I say pan people for what they do, not what you think they think.

[Addanc]

WHS

plus I would like to stop thick people from voting. starting with those who "read" the sun.

Can we include Guardian reads please?

[SueEllen]

I think it can be legal. It is certainly possible to apply for exemption from things like being an equal-opportunities employer... e.g a Christian organisation can get special dispensation in order to insist all employees support their principles.


Whether the police does this, who knows. It doesn't seem the same thing though to me.

What you have written isn't totally correct.

The Police and public bodies like the prison service are covered by The Race Relations Act 2000 Amendment. This means that if you are in such a service you can't belong to a group or organisation that doesn't promote or believe in racial equality.

The discrimination laws do allow organisations and companies to have exemptions when they advertise jobs i.e. needing a male model to advertise underwear for men, needing to be of the same religion to lead religious services but where principles are involved they don't get an automatic exemption. So in the Christian case as long as the employee/volunteer agreed with the Christian principles then they can work for the organisation. They don't have to be Christian. I know a teacher who worked in a Jewish school and they are definitely not Jewish.

[minestrone]

I would rather have the right to democratic elections than have the right to fire bomb cars.

[Bob Dalek]

What you have written isn't totally correct.

The Police and public bodies like the prison service are covered by The Race Relations Act 2000 Amendment. This means that if you are in such a service you can't belong to a group or organisation that doesn't promote or believe in racial equality.

The discrimination laws do allow organisations and companies to have exemptions when they advertise jobs i.e. needing a male model to advertise underwear for men, needing to be of the same religion to lead religious services but where principles are involved they don't get an automatic exemption. So in the Christian case as long as the employee/volunteer agreed with the Christian principles then they can work for the organisation. They don't have to be Christian. I know a teacher who worked in a Jewish school and they are definitely not Jewish.

Racial Equality: You have to read the BNP website to get their take on that. Spin, of course, but so what? Our own Gov. has spun so much and so often that they have legitimized piss-taking weasel word usage.