BNP Members list leaked on the internet

[AtW]

a) I am not in favour what has happened- but has happened and you may dig your head in the sand if you wish, BBC and GUARDIAN websites together will let MILLIONS of people know. Me and the 100 or so views on here are not worth you moaning. Go write to your MP.

You are part of it - you posted links to the list, if you just wanted to share news you'd publish text of BBC page and provided link to it. Then you'd be okay, but right now you just look to me as a guy who is a wrong side of it. Some idiot somewhere is likely to check that list and find the person (who may well be wrongly on that list) and beat them up or even kill them for being a member of a legal political party.

b) How on earth does a list support anything? was an ex-employee of theirs who they fell out with as opposed to an infiltration by AlQuaeeda

BNP i snot Al Quaeda. Whoever did that leak should have tried infiltrate AQ and maybe get Osama or list of future targets, now that would be useful, though very risky, which is why that person decided to breach privacy of members of a not likeable but legal political party.

[YHB]

There is zero public interest in this action,

a) what if its a judge with a non-white individual to decide if guilty?
b) what if its your black childs teacher? or the GCSE teaching marking coursework
c) Whats if its someone in the immigration service judging if an immigrant is a genuine asylum seeker who will be killed/punished/raped and so on if he/she is sent back.

what if its anyone else in HUNDREDS OF POSITIONS where this matters??

Shouldnt have been leaked, but now has tough.

[TheFaQQer]

What's really amusing here is that you are okay with gross breach of privacy of lots of people who are legally entitled to it, yet you are not okay with me using 2 full sentences making up full first paragraph in your post? Frankly while BNP might be complete slimeballs whoever posted this information is not much better.

There is zero public interest in this action, I'd be suprised if they don't mount serious lawsuit and the worst of all they would be right - whoever leaked that list is an idiot because it actually makes BNP appear to be on the right side.

There is a possible public interest defence in some of the names, since certain professions are banned from being members (e.g. police, army, teachers, IIRC).

[AtW]

a) what is its a judge?
b) what if its your black childs teacher?
c) Whats if its someone in the immigration judging if an immigrant is a genuine asylum seeker who will be killed/punished/raped and so on if he/she is sent back.

a) What's the public interest in seeing addresses, names and emails of people who are members of a legal political party? Is being a member of BNP a crime now? I don't see any judges who ruled it this way.

b) As long as teacher is doing his job without pushing his political views (whatever they are - including labour, conservative) on children it's fine by me - we are not talking about child molesters there.

c) Same as above - analysis of rejections should easily show up those who reject too many of certain racial origin, in any case its Home Office matter.

[TheFaQQer]

a) What's the public interest in seeing addresses, names and emails of people who are members of a legal political party? Is being a member of BNP a crime now? I don't see any judges who ruled it this way.

As I said above, certain professions are not allowed to be members. There was a case recently of a police officer who was dismissed for being a member.

[YHB]

a) What's the public interest in seeing addresses, names and emails of people who are members of a legal political party? Is being a member of BNP a crime now? I don't see any judges who ruled it this way.

b) As long as teacher is doing his job without pushing his political views (whatever they are - including labour, conservative) on children it's fine by me - we are not talking about child molesters there.

c) Same as above - analysis of rejections should easily show up those who reject too many of certain racial origin, in any case its Home Office matter.

You genuinely believe an active BNP member (these are members not just voters) who take an active part will not be biased when making a decision on non-whites?

Jeeze I give up. Beyond help.

[Board Game Geek]

As fair as I know, YHB didn't originally hack the BNP membership list, so he's clear on that side of things.

However, YHB and ANYBODY else who provides links to where the data can be found is guilty of aiding and abetting the intrusion of privacy.

Note that I said, YHB and ANYBODY else. I'm not picking on YHB here. I don't know the fella / lass and it's nothing personal.

Imagine the following scenario.

Walking down the street, I see a hole in a fence.

Looking through the hole, I can in to a nudist's camp.

At that moment, I am guilty of invasion of privacy.

Now imagine I put a big sign up outside the hole saying "Free peep show here".

I never made the hole, but I am guilty of aiding and abetting others and enabling them to committ an invasion of privacy.

That's the analogy I will draw with posting links...

[YHB]

As fair as I know, YHB didn't originally hack the BNP membership list, so he's clear on that side of things.

However, YHB and ANYBODY else who provides links to where the data can be found is guilty of aiding and abetting the intrusion of privacy.

Note that I said, YHB and ANYBODY else. I'm not picking on YHB here. I don't know the fella / lass and it's nothing personal.

Imagine the following scenario.

Walking down the street, I see a hole in a fence.

Looking through the hole, I can in to a nudist's camp.

At that moment, I am guilty of invasion of privacy.

Now imagine I put a big sign up outside the hole saying "Free peep show here".

I never made the hole, but I am guilty of aiding and abetting others and enabling them to committ an invasion of privacy.

That's the analogy I will draw with posting links...

Nope, nothing to do with me- saw a thread on a much larger Uk forum.

See I would never be sued in any way- why? because BBC etc know full well everyone and anyone will type in "bnp list" into google and find it but still publish it as its 'news'.

It was wrong for whover did it but even the BNp have said "now its out, its out".

[Mor4]

go on any fascist site and you will find list of people they don't like .

so .......... read it and swallow

On the rightwing website Redwatch, hundreds of photographs of anti-war and anti-fascist activists are posted - with the message that they will 'pay for their crimes'. And now a number of those people have been attacked. So why hasn't the site been closed down? Matthew Taylor investigates

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...oct/04/news.g2


Lord Greaves: My Lords, I thank the Minister for that helpful reply. The website concerned, Red Watch, was set up about two years ago by Combat 18, a Nazi hit group. It is registered by the National Front and the White Nationalist Party. A great deal of the material upon the website appears to be posted on it and sent to it by active and leading members of the British National Party. The material consists of more than 1,000 photographs of anti-Nazi, anti-racist activists with their addresses, telephone numbers and, where applicable, car registration numbers. I believe that the Minister confirmed that the security and police forces are looking at the matter. Will she reconfirm that? Will she also tell us whether they are devoting sufficient resources to this particular problem which quite clearly involves breaches of the law, incitement to violence against individuals and their property and incitement to racial hatred? This is a serious matter. Just because the people concerned are on the Left does not mean that they deserve less protection than if they were businessmen or other people. Will the Minister confirm that?

[YHB]

go on any fascist site and you will find list of people they don't like .

so .......... read it and swallow

On the rightwing website Redwatch, hundreds of photographs of anti-war and anti-fascist activists are posted - with the message that they will 'pay for their crimes'. And now a number of those people have been attacked. So why hasn't the site been closed down? Matthew Taylor investigates

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...oct/04/news.g2

Yup- those leaked are not voters but ACTIVE MEMBERS.

some people on here dont see the important distinction.No one was spying in polling booths