People 'can't wait for ID cards'

[foritisme]

Honestly, I can't see the problem with them. If it meant I din't havr to carry a passport and a driving licence around with me, you know just had one card for everything?

I'm sure that you lot have perfectly good reasons for not wanting them but me, I don't see what the big deal is.

Can't see them scrapping passports & driving licences !

[cailin maith]

Can't see them scrapping passports & driving licences !

Well then, whats the point in us having carry another card?

[EternalOptimist]

Honestly, I can't see the problem with them. If it meant I din't havr to carry a passport and a driving licence around with me, you know just had one card for everything?

I'm sure that you lot have perfectly good reasons for not wanting them but me, I don't see what the big deal is.

having and carrying a passport is voluntary. If you were told you HAVE to buy one and carry it would you feel the same ?

[foritisme]

Well then, whats the point in us having carry another card?

That's what most of us are trying to figure out

[SantaClaus]

Honestly, I can't see the problem with them. If it meant I din't havr to carry a passport and a driving licence around with me, you know just had one card for everything?

I'm sure that you lot have perfectly good reasons for not wanting them but me, I don't see what the big deal is.

The big deal is being stopped by a policeman at every corner demanding to see your ID card. If you dont produce it, you are carted off to the police station and detained for 42 days under the terrorism act.

Can't happen? Every violation of human rights that the govt. has introduced would have been thought far-fetched in the past.

[cailin maith]

having and carrying a passport is voluntary. If you were told you HAVE to buy one and carry it would you feel the same ?

But I don't see it as voluntary. If I want to go anywhere I need it, don't I? Even being in this country I needed it to get here.

That's what most of us are trying to figure out

The big deal is being stopped by a policeman at every corner demanding to see your ID card. If you dont produce it, you are carted off to the police station and detained for 42 days under the terrorism act.

Can't happen? Every violation of human rights that the govt. has introduced would have been thought far-fetched in the past.

Suppose...

[BoredBloke]

But I don't see it as voluntary. If I want to go anywhere I need it, don't I? Even being in this country I needed it to get here.

A passport is voluntary - If you don't want to go abroad then you don't need a passport. A driving license is voluntary. If you don't/can't drive a car then you don't need one. An ID card is not voluntary and will cost a whole lot more than the other forms of ID that are available.

I suspect that the only people actually looking forward to their introduction are those waiting to forge them.

[minestrone]

To be honest most of the arguments against it are pretty half baked.

'they are forcing me to carry an ID card' and that kind of crap.

'first it will be ID cards and then the police will have the right to rape your daughters!!'

[SantaClaus]

Suppose...

Now lets say you are arrested for not producing your ID card. Your DNA sample will be taken as is the case when you are in contact with the police now.

Then at a later date, your DNA is shared with life insurance companies wishing to know whether you are a bad candidate for insurance.

Cant happen? Then why do local councils think they can misuse the anti terrorism laws to spy on citizens to check they are disposing of our rubbish correctly.

The whole thing is downright dangerous.

[minestrone]

Now lets say you are arrested for not producing your ID card. Your DNA sample will be taken as is the case when you are in contact with the police now.

Then at a later date, your DNA is shared with life insurance companies wishing to know whether you are a bad candidate for insurance.

Cant happen? Then why do local councils think they can misuse the anti terrorism laws to spy on citizens to check they are disposing of our rubbish correctly.

The whole thing is downright dangerous.

Just as I was saying