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#31

7 November 2008, 09:58

Originally posted by SantaClaus View Post

Can't happen? Every violation of human rights that the govt. has introduced would have been thought far-fetched in the past.

Every 'secruity' measure that nuLieBore has introduced has been abused already.

The ID cards are not about convience of not having to carry muliple other forms of ID, that is just spin, it is about monitoring and control of anyone who could be a threat to the state - that means YOU.

This obsession with databases for this, that and the other will bring this country to it knees as nothing will be able to get done. "Sorry Mr HAB, we are turning down your application for a mortage because background checks say that you are too much risk. You could lose your job because of potential poor attendance. That is the prediction that has been made from school records that show you once missed a gym class 25 years ago". Except all would be said would be, "Computer says no", without the full explination.

How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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#32

7 November 2008, 10:01

The plan now is that retailers and the Post Office can enrol you (scan your biometric data). Muurahahhahah. And the cost may rise to £60.
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#33

7 November 2008, 10:01

Nobody is actually forcing you to have one, that is myth number one.
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#34

7 November 2008, 10:04

Originally posted by minestrone View Post

Just as I was saying

Good luck Minestrone. If you are the last person to leave the country, please turn out the lights!

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#35

7 November 2008, 10:05

Originally posted by minestrone View Post

Nobody is actually forcing you to have one, that is myth number one.

Not yet! every govt. Infringement of our civil liberties starts off as a "pilot scheme" or "temporary legislation".

Of course, even if nobody applies for said cards, we will be told that the scheme was a "success" and will be rolled out for compulsory registration.

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#36

7 November 2008, 10:07

Originally posted by minestrone View Post

Nobody is actually forcing you to have one, that is myth number one.

Not at the moment - but just wait. You say that 'most of the arguments against it are pretty half baked'. Can you actually give any arguments for it?

Expensive to implement.
Expensive to administer.
Duplication of existing ID - not needed.
Will not protect anybody from terrorism.
Will be open to fraud and as a result identity theft.

Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

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#37

7 November 2008, 10:07

Originally posted by minestrone View Post

Nobody is actually forcing you to have one, that is myth number one.

Thinking that you will not eventually be forced to have one is so stupid it is beyond belief.

Moderators: I'm all in favour of a reasoned discussion, but complete imbeciles should not be allowed to post here.
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#38

7 November 2008, 10:08

Originally posted by minestrone View Post

To be honest most of the arguments against it are pretty half baked.

'they are forcing me to carry an ID card' and that kind of crap.

'first it will be ID cards and then the police will have the right to rape your daughters!!'

You are Derek Draper and I claim my get out of Belmarsh free card.

How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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#39

7 November 2008, 10:10

Originally posted by minestrone View Post

Nobody is actually forcing you to have one, that is myth number one.

The pilot scheme at Manchester airport introduces compulsory ID cards for airside workers.

what part of compulsory are you having trouble with ?

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#40

7 November 2008, 10:12

Originally posted by SantaClaus View Post

Good luck Minestrone. If you are the last person to leave the country, please turn out the lights!

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