People 'can't wait for ID cards'

[DodgyAgent]

This is the ludicrous clap trap everyone spouts. Nobody can actually form a decent workable argument against the cards so the people who don’t want them start making up scenarios and try to use them in a debate. “yes it’s just the start next you will have to RFID your turds” type pish.

It is the ramblings of people who if it was 80 years ago would be saying that mind control suggestion were being transmitted in TV signals.

I’m more worried that we live in a country full of sensationalist gaylords than ID cards.

ID cards are compulsory in Eastern Europe. It is no coincidence that these are part of the legacy left by former police states. They are very convenient but have to be used absolutly everywhere, whether booking theatre tickets booking into a hotel, visiting the doctors surgery. If you are caught without one the police file a report. The data is strictly controlled and third parties have no access to any information held on individuals. It does not seem that the data is abused, but you leave a visible trail wherever you go and whatever you do. This is fine provided you do nothing wrong.

This govt has a track record of wanting to control people and they have abused the anti terrorism laws. Couple this with their sheer mind blowing incompetence at getting anything done, ID cards should be shelved and the money saved instead used to help give kids a better education.

[DodgyAgent]

ID Cards are great news for contractors. They'll be tons of work:

a) designing it
b) building it
c) fixing it when EDS/CAP/Arce-Enter have ballsed it up
d) maintaining it (for the cheap-o tape changers here)
e) integrating it with Wacky Jackie's database etc.

BOOMED!

f) re fixing it again once contractors have balles up the fix
d) sending it to an Indian company for re-designing and re-writing.

[Purple Dalek]

ID Cards are great news for contractors. They'll be tons of work:

a) designing it
b) building it
c) fixing it when EDS/CAP/Arce-Enter have ballsed it up
d) maintaining it (for the cheap-o tape changers here)
e) integrating it with Wacky Jackie's database etc.

BOOMED!

That reminds me of the Mexican President who had the printers print loads of bank notes, and then was surprised when they didn't want to be paid with them.

[EternalOptimist]

I think I will get my ID card from here, it’s cheaper.

http://www.phatism.com/ID-CARD-CATALOGUE.htm

There was a case in 2005 where a Nigerian had a forged passport and borrowed £50k from HSBC and other banks to fund a drug ring. It was only after he was arrested and checks were made that showed the passport was forged.

In 'the great escape', Eric 'digger' Dowling managed to forge German ID papers with half a beetroot and a jar of wee.

If you can achieve that whilst you are locked up in a stalag, just think what Al Quaeda will be able to do

[BoredBloke]

f) re fixing it again once contractors have balles up the fix
d) sending it to an Indian company for re-designing and re-writing.

alphabet not your strong point then DA?

[minestrone]

ID cards are compulsory in Eastern Europe. It is no coincidence that these are part of the legacy left by former police states. They are very convenient but have to be used absolutly everywhere, whether booking theatre tickets booking into a hotel, visiting the doctors surgery. If you are caught without one the police file a report. The data is strictly controlled and third parties have no access to any information held on individuals. It does not seem that the data is abused, but you leave a visible trail wherever you go and whatever you do. This is fine provided you do nothing wrong.

This govt has a track record of wanting to control people and they have abused the anti terrorism laws. Couple this with their sheer mind blowing incompetence at getting anything done, ID cards should be shelved and the money saved instead used to help give kids a better education.

ID cards are pretty much common throughout europe.

You leave a trace everywhere you go anyway.

[Purple Dalek]

alpabet not your strong point then DA?

He's probably working from the front panel of his fax machine.

[BoredBloke]

ID cards are pretty much common throughout europe.

You leave a trace everywhere you go anyway.

So is there is no terrorism or illegal working in these countries? Spain has ID cards and as far as I know, they have had bombings and lots of people working there illegaly. So how do ID cards stop this again?

[Purple Dalek]

ID cards are pretty much common throughout europe.

You leave a trace everywhere you go anyway.

Where in Europe do you have an ID card that is anywhere near as wide ranging as the one they're building in England?

In the Nordics, it is simpler than a NI number.

In Eastern Europe your personal information is never sold to companies.

So, where exactly?

[Moscow Mule]

ID cards are pretty much common throughout europe.

You leave a trace everywhere you go anyway.

The US doesn't have them.

I bet your one of those "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear" brigade aren't you?