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People 'can't wait for ID cards'

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    Originally posted by TonyEnglish View Post
    alphabet not your strong point then DA?
    struggling today to put my fingers in the right places
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      Originally posted by minestrone View Post
      I never said it would.
      Bu you have not actually said why we need them. Give us the reasons why we should spend vast sums of money to replace the forms of ID that we already have.
      Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

      I preferred version 1!

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        My reasons against ID card scheme are:

        It will be open to abuse
        It will be open to forgery
        It will be open to abuse
        It won't solve any problems
        It will be open to abuse
        It costs a fortune and will introduce another stealth tax
        It will be open to abuse
        I am innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way round.
        It will be open to abuse
        I see no reason why the government should hold my DNA/fingerprint/retina scan - it is an invasion of privacy
        It will be open to abuse
        The data will be made available to private companies - it is an invasion of privacy
        It will be open to abuse
        Given the government's track record for securing data, it will be hacked, or data will be lost
        It will be open to abuse
        It wont stop terrorism
        It will be open to abuse
        It wont stop illegal workers
        It will be open to abuse

        To name but a few...
        "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


        Thomas Jefferson

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          Originally posted by Ruprect View Post
          My reasons against ID card scheme are:

          It will be open to abuse
          It will be open to forgery
          It will be open to abuse
          It won't solve any problems
          It will be open to abuse
          It costs a fortune and will introduce another stealth tax
          It will be open to abuse
          I am innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way round.
          It will be open to abuse
          I see no reason why the government should hold my DNA/fingerprint/retina scan - it is an invasion of privacy
          It will be open to abuse
          The data will be made available to private companies - it is an invasion of privacy
          It will be open to abuse
          Given the government's track record for securing data, it will be hacked, or data will be lost
          It will be open to abuse
          It wont stop terrorism
          It will be open to abuse
          It wont stop illegal workers
          It will be open to abuse

          To name but a few...
          Why the sudden need to have our fingerprints on file anyway? It used to be that the police would destroy fingerprints taken from innocent parties, only keeping the fingerprints of convicted criminals permanently.
          Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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            Originally posted by Sysman View Post
            Why the sudden need to have our fingerprints on file anyway? It used to be that the police would destroy fingerprints taken from innocent parties, only keeping the fingerprints of convicted criminals permanently.
            That one is easy: it's because you're all criminals now.

            At least to a Nu-Liebor mind.

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              I just heard a good one: “Those with nothing to hide have the most to fear”. Amongst the various reasoning was “Everyone has something to hide or that they are not proud of. If someone has an identity with no black marks against it whatsoever then it will be flagged as being a potential forgery and they will face further, in-depth investigation.
              How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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                It's strange how even the pro id cards people cannot give any real reasons why we should spend all this money to replicate and duplicate our existing forms of ID.
                Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

                I preferred version 1!

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                  Originally posted by TonyEnglish View Post
                  It's strange how even the pro id cards people cannot give any real reasons why we should spend all this money to replicate and duplicate our existing forms of ID.
                  They have never been any use. In the war, they were utterly reproducible bits of paper/cardboard, viz. The Great Escape.

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                    Originally posted by Purple Dalek View Post
                    That one is easy: it's because you're all criminals now.

                    At least to a Nu-Liebor mind.
                    Oh Dear™

                    Fingerprints: Infallible Evidence?

                    (CBS) The FBI has long maintained that fingerprint identification is an exact science that can be used to match prints with 100 percent certainty. But recently, the bureau was forced to admit that three top analysts all made the same mistake when they swore that fingerprint evidence linked Oregon lawyer Brandon Mayfield to the terrorist bombings in Madrid. Mayfield spent two weeks in jail before the FBI admitted its error and offered an apology.

                    Mayfield is one of a small but growing number of Americans who've been jailed on the basis a fingerprint match that turned out to be false.

                    ...
                    Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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                      Mayfield is one of a small but growing number of Americans who've been jailed on the basis a fingerprint match that turned out to be false.
                      And if he hadn't been a lawyer he might still be there.

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